marlin ballard .... jap arisaka 99 w/bayonette
hey guys, I just picked up a few rifles from an older gent, some pretty cool stuff and among them is what I believe to be a full mum 99(neither of these 2 rifles do I know anything about so please bear w/me)...it looks brand new and unfired(unissued?)guess they are called takehomes or something like that... looking in the auctions I've seen some in cosmo but they usually have beat up stocks...the stock also looks brand new along with a bayonette that looks like its never been out of the scabbord....I'm guessing that this one should bring a premium, any ideas on value?? or if there is a certain "option" I should check and make note of in listing?
Secondly, he also has a marlin ballard that I did not buy because its an expensive piece and to be fair to him, I didn't want to low ball. The condition is incredible! nice case color, wood is about perfect...far nicer than anything I've seen on here! I'll be listing it for him in the near future but was hoping to get some background as we are not completely sure which it is....he thought it may be a 1 1/2 or 1 3/4...double set trigger(hair!) no cleaning rod(or place for one). octo bar.,primitive glass rear..he has a fancy book about ballards but nothing seems like an exact match. I know without pics its impossible but are there any afficianados here or could you recommend someone who's knowledgeable about these? As always, thanks a TON for your time/replies!
Secondly, he also has a marlin ballard that I did not buy because its an expensive piece and to be fair to him, I didn't want to low ball. The condition is incredible! nice case color, wood is about perfect...far nicer than anything I've seen on here! I'll be listing it for him in the near future but was hoping to get some background as we are not completely sure which it is....he thought it may be a 1 1/2 or 1 3/4...double set trigger(hair!) no cleaning rod(or place for one). octo bar.,primitive glass rear..he has a fancy book about ballards but nothing seems like an exact match. I know without pics its impossible but are there any afficianados here or could you recommend someone who's knowledgeable about these? As always, thanks a TON for your time/replies!
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Would need some additional info on the T-99. Do all numbers match?
All numbered parts should have 3 digits numbers that match the last 3 of serial number on receiver.
Matching numbers is perhaps the most important thing except for originality (IE: Not refinished or altered from original configuration in any way).
Then there are 3 basic types of the T-99. Early War, Mid War Transissional, and Late War Last Ditch. The difference in these is evidenced by deterioration of quality due to war time hardships in MFG.
So would need to know what Arsenal and Series you T-99 is. Generally early war rifles have a premium in value, w/value getting less as quality decends.
That said, a pristine Mumed & matching T-99 of any series has value. Probably in the $300-$500. range IMO .
Again the MFG markings on the bayo are important. There are some bayo's that are rarer than others.
But a common mfg bayo/wscabbard, in EX condition is IMO probably worth about $125. And possibly much more if a rare MFG.
There is a website that will help you decipher the Japanese markings on your rifle. Do a Google for "Markngs on Japanese rifles". It will also give info on bayo markings.0 -
Agree with Fatstrat on the 99, as he is very keen on these,, Variables, of course..but, IF everything is "right", it MIGHT be upwards of the 500 plus range. imo,,,,[:)] darn pic would help a lot......nambu 0 -
Dear Jag...agree completely with the two other posts. Correct mum and atching #'s are always the key items but check the T99 for two other items...does it have the correct AA sights and is does the bolt action have the bolt cover (and the does the tiny three digit # match the rifle serial #?). To be truly original the correct bolt action cover must be there. Most Japanese soldiers discarded the bolt cover as it made too much noise when chambering a round, thereby giving away location. Several years ago I purchased a freshly captured Type 99 in its shipment box APO San Francisco from Okinawa carefully packed in Pabst Blue Ribbon papers inside the box! Guy found it in his Dad's shed out behind the house like the day in July 1945 it arrived in SF! What a find! If your T99 is complete, $500+ is about right. Japanese bayonets are common and ones in the condition you describe could bring as much as $250-300. Good shooting! 0 -
Need pictures of the Ballard. What style lever? What style loop on lever? What style butt? What style barrel? What chambering? What type of stock? What does the patent dates read? 0 -
Being somewhat of an old Single Shot Rifle afficionado, Marlin-Ballard rifles are not completley foreign to me. That said, without pictures, I/we are in the dark about it. 0 -
guys, thanks a ton for replies...great help! pics coming shortly...hope we don't get locked! the following is from the owners notes on the research he has done(mostly from ballard book from dutcher)...he also feels its very possible to have been customized at birth as that would make sense with all the stories about his grandfather(It was his gun, name was mallam...A professional soldier his "buffalo gun")
...it might be a 1 3/4 far west same lever and stock butt but it has a 26" octo bl. and is 44w cal. Also could be pacific #5 but they are all shown with cleaning rods and this has none...0 -



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Your old Ballard is a No. 2 Sporting Rifle with a special order double-set trigger. It does appear to be in very nice condition[^] 0
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