arisaka and bayonette
Hi, starting new thread because I'm afraid the previous will be locked shortly. A sincere thanks to those who posted on the previous...here is some pics. let me know what other info would help...oh yeah-CHECK THIS OUT- I Have the letter or should I say "war trophy certificate" okaying posession of this rifle...thats gotta add value, no?
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Defaced Mum. Not a battlefield pickup, but a [Japanese] government authorized surplus release. Others will chime in on the remainder of the rifles condition, and to what loss the mum's strikeover means in value. Best, Joe 0 -
That is one sweet T-99! Still can't tell much about it other than exceptionally good condition. Really need good pics of the markings (serial number etc) on left side receiver.
From I can see, it looks like a mid war Transissional. As evidenced by plain rear barrel band (not monopod type) and looks to be short cleaning rod.
The Bayo was made by an unknown contractor under Kokura Arsenal supervision. The leather frog itself is worth probably $100.
If those papers you mention are WW-2 dated "bringhome papers", issued by the military, they will add significant value to the rifle.
BTW: From the pics, it looks to me like maybe the Mum has been defaced. Could be just glare. Not all Mums were ground off. Many were simpy defaced by some type of chop or slash mark across it.
This would certainly indicate that the rifle is not a battlefield pickup. But likely an arsenal stored weapon acquired after the war. The Papers should state where/when rifle was acquired.0 -
quote:Originally posted by givette
Defaced Mum. Not a battlefield pickup, but a [Japanese] government authorized surplus release. Others will chime in on the remainder of the rifles condition, and to what loss the mum's strikeover means in value. Best, Joe
Defaced Mum "generally" hurts value. But if numbers match, on a rifle in as good condition as this, IMO it shouldn't hurt it much.0 -
guys I really do appreciate the replies...fun learning! the mums mark is like if you took a 1/4" screwdriver and gave it one tap with a hammer at the bottom of the mum...the ser.# is 302xx the letter is dated nov 7th 1945 this rifle looks way to good to be a pick up, I've probably thrown the bolt more today than has been done since it was born....bolt and rec. #'s match...wheres the stock #? under butt? 0 -
With the condition of your rifle, the screws are probably still staked, which means the buttsock and the barreled action belong together. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by jag
guys I really do appreciate the replies...fun learning! the mums mark is like if you took a 1/4" screwdriver and gave it one tap with a hammer at the bottom of the mum...the ser.# is 302xx the letter is dated nov 7th 1945 this rifle looks way to good to be a pick up, I've probably thrown the bolt more today than has been done since it was born....bolt and rec. #'s match...wheres the stock #? under butt?
There are usually no stock numbers. But if you look closely at the bottom side of the Buttstock,you should find 2 arsenal stamps. They often get filled w/dirt etc and appear like dings. But close inspection will reveal Japanese Kana.
"Staked" means the action screws have peened on the edge to make removal VERY difficult. The Japanese did not intend the soldier to fully disasemble his rifle. Any repair/maint. beyond simple field cleaning was to be done by arsenal. DO NOT attempt to remove these screws. To do so w/cause a loss in value.
Have you learned the Arsenal & Series yet? If not, and you don't want to post pics of the seial number, post drawings of the arsenal/series marks. And I will ID them for you.
The Series mark is the small one inside cirle, before the serial number. The Arsenal comes after. May be one or two symbols.
A MUM defaced as yours is, is called a "Struck MUM".0 -
fat, in the first circle it kinda looks like a seagull or clock hands at 1:45 the one after the number looks like an upside down snowman..that help? cant find any cartouches but noticed the bayu lug # matches bolt and rec....And if I have the letter from orig. owner, posting the ser # shouldnt be a problem right? is this a LONG rifle? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by jag
fat, in the first circle it kinda looks like a seagull or clock hands at 1:45 the one after the number looks like an upside down snowman..that help? cant find any cartouches but noticed the bayu lug # matches bolt and rec....And if I have the letter from orig. owner, posting the ser # shouldnt be a problem right? is this a LONG rifle?
Sounds like a Nagoya Arsenal, Series 6 Transissional or "Substitute" T-99. No it is not a "Long Rifle". The Japanese did make some T-99 "longs" w/31" barrels. But most T-99's w/25.5" barrels are considered Carbines.
If you have provable ownership of the rifle, there should be no problem posting a pic of the serial number and markings.
Those stock markings should be there. If not, a possible refinish has been done. Which would greatly lower the value.0
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