cut compensator
I believe that is what it is called. I have always loved my model 12 winchester even though it is old it works great. Being a full choke It does not spread the pattern much. I came a,cross a model 12 with a ribbed choke looking device on the end of the barrel. I believe the guy called it a cut compensator, ha said they were popular in the 50's-60's because they enlarged the shot spread. i thought this sounded like a great deal, but a friend told me to stay away as it really hurts the value of the piece. Is he right? I think my full choke model 12 is probably worth about 500 what would the value of the one with the compensator on it be worth, they probably are the same age and in good shape.
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cutts,,I believe 0 -
There are several of the "muzzle nozzles" Cutts, Poly, Weaver to name a few mostly dating back half a century or more. Their purpose was to be able to select the desired choke pattern. The barrel was cut off a few inches and the device installed to give choke pattens from cylinder to full. Any nice Model 12 with one on it cuts its value a lot. Apparently people don't like the look of the 'nozzle'. I just bought a superb Model 12 with deluxe wood for $350 - with a Weaver choke on it. You might consider having screw-in internal chokes installed, you can change them to get different patterns. I got a quote for about $160 to have mine done, which included 3 chokes. 0 -
...At least "some" models of Cutts Compensaters have different choke "tips" that easily screw on and off. Place a saved search on the Auction side and you will get an em if someone lists the tips or a compensater w/all the tips for sale...[;)]
...I don't know why they called them "compensaters", my old, spring action Model 11 kicks the snot out of you, and it's a 16g w/full choke (tip) Cutts...[;)]
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There are a lot of these "things" on the old shotguns. I have one on a 20 ga. called "Dial-a-Duck". Forerunner of choke tubes. 0 -
if your m12 doesnt have one, dont put one on. you are right, it hurts the value of it.
and cutts are discontinued. youd have to find an antique one and put it on. not worth the hassle.
heck, just go buy another m12 with one on it.0 -
Two different critters being spoken of here. One is the "Dial-a-duck" variable choke- turning a collet causes "fingers to spread or close up, varying the degree of choke- and then there is a Cutts (brand name) compensator- early form of muzzle brake. About as ugly as Janet Reno. Worked- sorta. Neither one is real popular, and sorta detracts from the COLLECTOR'S value. Sometimes BOTH are included in one, sometimes they are separate items. 0 -
I think that the Cutt's Compensator was originally designed to help control muzzle rise on the 1928A1 .45ACP Thompson submachinegun.
As an aside, did anyone else know that they built that weapon in .38 Super Colt, as well as .45??
Got to shoot one, long ago and far away.
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Installing "internal" tubes would be better looking than the Cutts, but would be similarly destructive to the value. Add the cost of the conversion and factor in the lost re-sale value and you'd be better off buying another shotgun that offers choking options that meet your needs. Just my 2 cents worth. 0 -
Nothing wrong with the Cutts; I like 'em. Of course I'm a through-back to the 50's when I couldn't afford to buy one and have it installed. Now I just buy the gun with the Cutts already on it for about half price. What goes around, comes around! 0 -
There were three old choke systems that date back before WW2:
Poly choke was an adjustable choke that tightened like a collet or a chuck, the Cutts compensator had muzzle brake slots and could be fitted with six screw-in chokes and the Weaver Choke which also had a muzzle brake function could be fitted with six screw-in chokes.0
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