Hi Standard confusion
Question for the bullseye shooters. I searched past posts but really didnt see the answer to my question. I want to buy a used Hi Standard .22, but being new to them, I dont know what Im looking for. I held one that was going for $400, and it fit me like a glove, but it looked just like the $1200 sitting next to it. I want it for bullseye league shooting. Is there certain models to stay away from, and do the barrels get shot out easy. If they do, are new barrels easy to find. Looks arent important to me, but accuracy and longevity is. Thanks.
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The original Conn. made High Standard pistols haven't been made for 25 years. The modern pistols now sold under the High Standard name are made in Texas, and aren't considered as capable for Bullseye work as the original ones.
Do yourself a favor, instead of buying a used 25+ year old High Standard with a unknown round count, get your hands on a S & W Model 41. They have been in continuous production now for over 50 years.0 -
The old High Standard Company had been around for quite a while and made excellent semi auto rimfire pistols. Some of the older or more unusual versions are expensive, but their Supermatic Citation or Tournament and Victor versions are in general pretty reasonably priced. There is however quite a variance even amoung like models. I've seen what I thought should be $700.00 guns going for $399.00 or so and the reverse.
The current company and Mitchells version are not the same company.
The simplest and surest way to get what you want is to go with a new Smith 41, but if you want to go the HS route something like this is fine: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=125898417
Seems to me you should have no trouble finding a very nice one for $500.00 or so.0 -
hello
i shoot a victor in bullseye and even some of the shooters that shoot 41's still say my victor has a better trigger. i have on average put 4000 to 5000 through it every year and i have had it for 18 years. broke one extractor. find the ammo it likes and it will work fine. general speaking i clean the bolt face and the barrel face once a year with a brush thats it. at the end of the season i will take apart and clean generally. aftermarket lsp barrel from brownells is what i use and they are accurate the barrel i currently use has 50000 and is just as accurate as the day i bought it and maybe a little bit better. shot it at the 100 yard range against bolt action rifles and did good for 5.5" barrel out of a 600 i shot 567 which came in second. i just did it to prove i could to some of the high dollar shooters. i like it because i can just push the button and put the original barrel right back on for useing regular sights if i want to. simple take down to clean. push button under barrel on the frame and remove barrel and slide. that is as simple as it gets. make sure you get the magazines adjusted right and you should have no problems. also the original magazines that have the 5 and 10 on the side seem like they function better then some others although i have had good luck with the triple k. i have shot at 100 yards and shot under an inch 5 shot group. i dont know if all are like this but mine was. i have several hamdens and east hartfords but dont have any texas made ones.
hopefully this helps.
i care a spare victor and a 41 as well but my 1 victor stays in the vehicle year round and it has taken pheasant with just 1 well placed head shot.0 -
YES the model 41 has been made for years but They to have had Quality Control problems during some years The High Standard Made in CONN. are great guns . The early ones had a slope grip and latter ones had ML grips almost the same as a 1911 Bulls-Eye shooters like the 1911 type grip. When High standard when out of business some late guns were clean=up parts For the most part the Conn guns with SH as part of the serial number should be avoided . I have one pistol with 100,0000 of rounds through and only broke one firing pin from DRY FIRING before I knew better. The barrels are made to exchange in one minute so if you get a Victor that comes with both front and rear on the barrel then you can get another barrel to mount a RED DOT sight on .H.S. S&W sort of like truck thing Chev or Ford bothare good I just shoot the H.S. better 0 -
Thanks for the info. There was a response that I was real interested in, but it got deleted before I had a chance to write down the info. What happened.
I held both the Hi Standard and the S&W, as well as the Mark II, Browning and Colt Challenger, and the Hi Standard felt right. I just couldnt tell what the difference was to all the other more expensive ones next to it.0 -
quote:Originally posted by rufe-snow
The original Conn. made High Standard pistols haven't been made for 25 years. The modern pistols now sold under the High Standard name are made in Texas, and aren't considered as capable for Bullseye work as the original ones.
Do yourself a favor, instead of buying a used 25+ year old High Standard with a unknown round count, get your hands on a S & W Model 41. They have been in continuous production now for over 50 years.
The older Conn High Standards aren't being made anymore, but lots of people are still devoted to them, and parts are generally available. (Not that they break often).
There is a reason they aren't being made anymore. . .not because they weren't good, but rather because they were TOO good! Its that old story about "they don't make them like THAT anymore"!
On Smith 41 vs High Standard, there is a question of personal preference here.
There is no slant grip Smith 41. If you like the slant grip (and personally I do), the HS is a no-brainer.
In terms of the military (or 1911-like) grip, personally I *still* prefer those High Standards over the Smith 41. I just think the feel/balance of the gun is better. Trigger and sights are every bit as good (if not better).
In terms of costs, they're not getting any cheaper, but its still quite possible to find used Hi Standards for less than new (or used) Smith 41s.0 -
bobski,
Well since you don't want to be civil, please take the time to address your venomous attack to Captain Kirk and get his response.
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