.250 Savage Bullet question?
Is there two different lengths of bullet for the .250 savage! I have a box that im going to give away on the gennaral disscusion side of the forums. The caseing's are the same but some the bulets vary in length. about a 1/4"[?]
Notice how the ones on the right side stick out of the box further.
Notice how the ones on the right side stick out of the box further.
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~Mr. Colt .45~,
There are dozens of lengths of .257" bullets. Generally speaking, the heavier the bullet is, the longer it is. Conversely, lighter bullets are usually shorter.
The lightest bullets normally used in the .250 Savage will run between 0.600" to 0.750" in length.
The heaviest bullets normally loaded for the same cartridge are the 120 gr. hunting bullets like the Nosler Partition at 1.150" in length.
Depending on who did the reloading, it appears the overall length length was modified to accommodate both the short and the long bullets. This will have a bearing on how these cartridges function in any particular chamber.
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It is hard to tell what you have for sure, but I'll give you some possibilities. The shorter cartridge looks to be a factory round, considering the bullet is seated about right for an 87gr. pointed soft point, plus it looks like it is crimped on the cannelure as a factory load might be. The longer round "could be a handload", with the bullet seated out quite far. It also looks to be a Nosler Partition from the 50-60's. You might also meas. the over all lenght of the cartridges. The S.A.A.M.I. over all length should be about 2.515" To answer your question directly, it is not bullet lenght, so much as it is the "weight per caliber", that controls the bullet lenght. Hawkshaw 0 -
I understand that, i just dont want whoever wins to load one in thier gun and have a malfunction or a serious headache! 0 -
quote:Originally posted by ~Mr. Colt .45~
I understand that, i just dont want whoever wins to load one in thier gun and have a malfunction or a serious headache!
I don't mean to be crass, but any body who loads and fires unknown handloads in their guns needs their head examined. If their is anything left after firing it in their gun.
I have seen to many blown up guns over the years, as the result of folks shooting "Gun Show" ammo in them.
As far as your concerned the legal liability of giving away loaded ammo that might or might not be dangerous is considerable, IMHO. I would just brake down the components and gice them away.0 -
~Mr. Colt .45~,
"I understand that, i just dont want whoever wins to load one in thier gun and have a malfunction or a serious headache!"
Then you need to measure the longest cartridge to see if it's within the SAAMI overall specification of 2.515" in length. Hodgdon does list 2.525" as a loaded length and there are chambers with a longer leade and throats but these should stay somewhere around 2.515" in length.
Most of us would NOT shoot these anyway but we would pull the bullets and powder then use the brass for our own loads.
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Hawkshaw,
"To answer your question directly, it is not bullet lenght, so much as it is the "weight per caliber", that controls the bullet lenght. Hawkshaw"
Nope. Your statement is incorrect since you don't allow for bullets made from material other than copper cup and lead core. If you measure the Barnes bullets and then compare that measurement to the cup/core bullets the Barnes will be significantly longer.
Even closer to home would be the Ballistic Tip bullets with polycarbonate tips that make their length longer than soft points or hollow points.
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quote:Originally posted by nononsense
~Mr. Colt .45~,
"I understand that, i just dont want whoever wins to load one in thier gun and have a malfunction or a serious headache!"
Then you need to measure the longest cartridge to see if it's within the SAAMI overall specification of 2.515" in length. Hodgdon does list 2.525" as a loaded length and there are chambers with a longer leade and throats but these should stay somewhere around 2.515" in length.
Most of us would NOT shoot these anyway but we would pull the bullets and powder then use the brass for our own loads.
Lightened for more detail:
Hawkshaw,
"To answer your question directly, it is not bullet lenght, so much as it is the "weight per caliber", that controls the bullet lenght. Hawkshaw"
Nope. Your statement is incorrect since you don't allow for bullets made from material other than copper cup and lead core. If you measure the Barnes bullets and then compare that measurement to the cup/core bullets the Barnes will be significantly longer.
Even closer to home would be the Ballistic Tip bullets with polycarbonate tips that make their length longer than soft points or hollow points.
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I dont have a dial cailper but i measured it with a tape measure and it is just a hair under 2 5/8ths"0 -
Aside from the obvious and already mentioned concerns about firing someone else's handloads is the question of legally shipping loaded ammunition. More hassle and expense than you may want to get into.
Break them down, flush powder, snap or decap the primers and give away the bullets and brass. No safety questions, no legal concerns.0
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