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cwinn
I've been looking for a inexpensive semi-auto 12 gauge for ducks/geese lately. My best friend/hunting partner has a broken (does not cycle anymore) Remington 11-87 Super Mag synthetic that I'm interested in buying and fixing/cleaning. We are both fairly certain about which part is broken/missing and I don't believe the repairs would cost much if I sent it to Remington or even a local.

This gun has been through hell and it shows (I was along for much of it.) Besides being broke, it is in about 70-75% condition I'd guess, with a fair amount of mild surface rust and some worse stuff on the rib. Lots of handling marks/dings, finish worn off in spots and been cleaned very rarely. I was actually the last one to hunt with it when it broke and it still has mud on it from that day some 2-3 years ago!

Anywayyyy... I was wondering what you all would consider a reasonable offer to make?? Bear in mind I want to be fair as he is my good friend. He seems open to just about anything as he practically forgot about the gun, but I want to do right by both of us... Any thoughts?
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  • perry shooter
    I know I will sound like a Jerk and maybe I am but to use a friends gun break it and leave muddy for 2 or 3 years I would say you should take some gun maint. lessons before ever owning a gun[[V][xx(][:(]:(]
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  • rusty1
    HALF THE PRICE OF A NEW ONE.
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  • nmyers
    I'll give you the benefit of the doubt & assume that, when it broke, that was because it was just plain worn out.

    At this point, it is TOTALED. That is, it would cost more to repair than it is worth. It has zero value. Go elsewhere & buy whatever you want.

    Neal
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  • jar
    If I was your friend and you were responsible for most of the hell the gun has been through I would think you should be for either fixing the gun or buying it for the price of an average gun of the same make and model!!! come on and MAN UP! Take the responsibility that comes with your actions! If you were to buy a gun some place else you and I would not be friends anymore!
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  • bk0331
    my dad taught me that when you borrow something from someone you return it in just as good or better shape than when you borrowed it. If I were you I would clean and repair the piece and return it to your friend. If I were your friend and you did that, I would give you the piece in return. Now that's friendship!
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  • cwinn
    You guys kill me. So quick to make assumptions and get all hot and bothered, without having all the facts.

    Didn't think I'd have to elaborate so much but here you go. I said I WAS ALONG for most of it, as in present. "Best friends and hunting partners", remember? The only time I ever fired the gun was on said day. I had given my personal gun to another friend, believe it or not, whose gun had jammed. I attempted to correct the problem in the field(it was jammed pretty good and I had no tools but a pocket knife.)

    In the meantime, my friend who owns the gun in question had killed his limit of birds, and offered to let me shoot his while he tried to fix it our buddies problem. Next bird in, I shoot and feel a blast of unburnt powder and dirt in my face. The action was stuck open and no longer operated correctly. The GUN HAD BROKEN, I DID NOT BREAK IT. It was loaded with his shells and he loaded it, just in my hands.

    Even so I offered to have it fixed, clean it (did I mention he was tough on the gun and I was the only one who ever cleaned it previously, as a favor???) and let him borrow my 870 in the meantime. He refused seeing as he already had a new Benelli and disliked the 11-87, but took it out that day because we were hunting the mudhole of all mudholes. He was so tough on the gun anyway, after it broke he considered it totaled as nmyers said. He cleaned the big chunks of mud off the gun and put it in a box on a shelf. FYI he lives 7 hours away, and at the conclusion of the hunt had to leave for home. There wasn't even an opportunity for me to come over to his house and do it while he was sleeping.

    I have since offered to take care of it, and he just laughs because he could care less and figures its good for parts and thats it. I told him I'd find out and make him a fair offer. Did I ever in my original post strike you as being the type to screw my friend? I said I was looking to do right by him with the money.

    I'm the guy many local friends turn to to get their guns cleaned (for free) just becuase I like to do it and play with a different gun. I clean MY guns after each target session/most hunts. But don't worry, I'll take some lessons at your urging.

    "Man Up"? Please. Spare me the lecture next time until, as stated before, you have all the facts and know what the hell you are talking about.

    Thank you rusty and nmyers for your replies, this isn't directed at you.
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  • cwinn
    bk0331-

    I was taught the same exact thing. I made every effort to repair/clean it. You would have to know my friend to understand his thought process, but he has other guns and truly couldnt care less about this one.

    I figure if I buy it from him at least he'll get something out of it. Did I mention when his new Benelli jammed I assessed the problem and cleaned it free of charge? Like I said, we are best friends and treat each other as such. He thinks its hilarious that Im even considering buying that old gun.

    He refused my offer and stated that it probably broke due to all the recent neglect on his part. Again, where have I come off like the type of guy who wouldn't do right by his friend?
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  • Robin
    Cwinn,
    I picked up an abused 12 ga 1100 for $150 a while back. It was a plain jane version, nothing special, fixed mod choke. It had a bunch of surface rust and the O ring was shot. The wood was dinged up but not cracked. It cleaned up OK and made a decent reliable shooter. I didn't keep up with what I spent on it or the time but I'd guess I spent $20-$30 and a few hours getting it in shape. Hope that helps give you an idea price wise.
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  • cwinn
    Thank you very much. I was thinking of offering $250-300 but wanted to know what the people on here thought. Maybe thats a bit to much?

    Sounds like you got yourself a pretty good deal though.
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  • Herschel
    cwinn, From reading your original post, I got the impression that you borrowed the shotgun, used it and returned it broken and dirty. After your more lengthy explanation I understand that you are not the irresponsible person that your first post led us to believe. Lighten up on those who criticized you. I wouldn't offer much for the gun in question. It could be a money pit.
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  • cwinn
    Maybe I can get a quote on the repair costs and then make an offer. Sounds like that may be the way to go. Like I said I thought I could tell which part had broken but then again I could be wrong.

    If I overreacted I apologize. I just wanted some outside advice from people who probably know much better than me what to pay. I guess I should have elaborated on what actually happened from the beginning. Thanks again everyone.
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