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I sold an AK folder NIB and will ship it to buyer's FFL two states away. Which carrier would be best to ensure safe, undamaged delivery?
It's been many years since I've shipped a long gun and I had a dealer's FFL then. My C&R doesn't count here.
Should I add additional packing to protect the original box?
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  • rufe-snow
    It's a rifle as far as the feds are concerned. Ship it by priority mail, insured for full value. Use another cardboard box to protect and disguise the original box and it's contents. In addition the P.O. has a specific regulation the requires you not identify the contents or recipient as being anything firearms related, i.e. don't be addressing it to Joe's Gun Shop.
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  • 11b6r
    Use additional stiffer packing (styro blocks, etc) inside the box at muzzle and stock- they tend to get tossed in shipment- have rec'd packages with muzzle sticking out thru box, or stock cracked. Would use US Mail myself, priority mail, insured. DO declare contents to the post office as a rifle- they have right to inspect to insure unloaded- you do not need FFL to mail a rifle. Some folks have had bad experience with USPS, some with UPS, some with Fedx
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  • duckhunter
    USPS priorty mail insured. Pack VERY well.
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  • givette
    We're talking long guns here, not pistols. I've sent rifles via mail. Postal clerk said there isn't any sort of log, or record kept of my declaration of the contents. I subsequently answer the basic questions..flammable, perishable, etc. at my mailing facility.

    Next time you're in the USPS, ask to see their [long gun] firearms declaration paperwork. Nada. Just stating what goes on at my end. I don't even remember stating the contents when insuring a package.

    Again, pistols are a different matter altogether (form PS1508). Best, Joe
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  • Grasshopper
    Good luck. I think I have had a long gun stolen this week.from the postal service[:(!][:(][B)], cofirmation, but NO insurance. Will be my last time for that. Records indicate it was accepted,,,and thats it..Follow up Monday. yea right...PACK IT GOOD AND INSURE IT...nambu
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  • 11b6r
    Joe- From the Domestic Mail Manual: 3.0 Rifles and Shotguns
    Although unloaded rifles and shotguns not precluded by 1.1e and 1.2 are mailable, mailers must comply with the Gun Control Act of 1968, Public Law 90-618, 18 USC 921, et seq., and the rules and regulations promulgated thereunder, 27 CFR 178, as well as state and local laws. The mailer may be required by the USPS to establish, by opening the parcel or by written certification, that the gun is unloaded and not precluded by 1.1e.

    Last sentence. The ATF HAS prosecuted people that fail to declare a firearm in a shipment. Did not say there was paperwork to do, but yes, they need to be declared.
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  • givette
    quote:Originally posted by 11b6r
    Joe- From the Domestic Mail Manual: 3.0 Rifles and Shotguns
    Although unloaded rifles and shotguns not precluded by 1.1e and 1.2 are mailable, mailers must comply with the Gun Control Act of 1968, Public Law 90-618, 18 USC 921, et seq., and the rules and regulations promulgated thereunder, 27 CFR 178, as well as state and local laws. The mailer may be required by the USPS to establish, by opening the parcel or by written certification, that the gun is unloaded and not precluded by 1.1e.

    Last sentence. The ATF HAS prosecuted people that fail to declare a firearm in a shipment. Did not say there was paperwork to do, but yes, they need to be declared.



    That's correct. The spirit of my post is thus: Without documentation, it's a case of "he said, she said". No one can prove if an item was declared (or not) without a paper trail to that effect. Postal clerk could just as easily say "he never told me what's in the box" as a CYA even if you did go through the [verbal] motions. Go figure....I can't. Best, Joe
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