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Walther/S&W PPK & PPK/S recall

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  • OLAK
    I"m still waiting for the shipping label from them.
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  • beantownshootah
    Its possible the part is German-made, hence the holdup. IE, it may be out of their hands.

    For liability reasons, they probably won't send the gun back until its fixed. (They'd rather have you mad at them then have you sue them over a malfunction later).

    If you MUST have the gun RIGHT NOW, I suppose you could litigate Smith to return it to you. They'd probably just send it back with a mean letter from your lawyer, but is that really what you want?

    The lawyer will charge you more for this than the aggravation of waiting.

    And more to the point, if the gun is actually defective or unsafe, are you really going to carry or shoot it?
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  • bigboy101
    Originally posted by beantownshootah
    Its possible the part is German-made, hence the holdup. IE, it may be out of their hands.

    For liability reasons, they probably won't send the gun back until its fixed. (They'd rather have you mad at them then have you sue them over a malfunction later).

    If you MUST have the gun RIGHT NOW, I suppose you could litigate Smith to return it to you. They'd probably just send it back with a mean letter from your lawyer, but is that really what you want?

    The lawyer will charge you more for this than the aggravation of waiting.

    And more to the point, if the gun is actually defective or unsafe, are you really going to carry or shoot it?

    I don't necessarily want the gun back right now, but think they need a kick in the ass to get this thing going here. 2 months is way to long to have nothing done and no answers.
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  • rufe-snow
    The way things are going with the economy here and in foreign countries, you would be lucky if S & W doesn't go belly up. Ever since Glock started eating their shorts with the police market, starting in the mid 80's, they have had about three different owners/managements. I don't mean to be flippant, but the way it is now, it's all out of your hands. As I see it, all you can do is to sit tight, and hope for the best.
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  • moonshine
    bigboy101

    thank for posting I was not aware that ther was a recall.
    Just unloaded my ppk/s and will put it away until I hear
    from s&w.Guess I'll change holsters and go back to the .45
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  • ripley16
    quote:Originally posted by bigboy101
    Does anyone have answers as to when S&W will do something about repairing all of the pistols recalled under this current recall? They have had my new, never fired PPK/S for over 2 months and, as of yesterday, they tell me that they still don't have the part to fix the problem designed or made and have no idea as to when they will. I can't believe their lackadaisical attitude. They also will not issue a refund so I can buy something else, and the $50.00 refund they promised...I did not get that either. Who regulates these people? Any suggestions?? Thanks.


    In the announcement S&W said the fix would take 8 to 12 weeks. It's hard to believe they don't have the part yet. I suggest you be patient... there's really isn't much you can do.
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  • leeblackman
    S&W was smart, they starting making AR's. Even selling stripped lowers. They should be doing very well right now, as they can't make them as fast as they are selling. They would be even better off if they made and sold ammo.
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  • v35
    They used to make ammo or at least had their own label.
    I had a PPKS from Interarmco and made a conversion barrel to a wildcat caliber.
    Due to miscalculation, slide velocity was too high and I broke, not bent,the ejector. A similar but hotter wildcat broke both the firing pin and spring guide of an Interarmco Luger.
    I found out at the time these remakes used a lot of cast parts. The brittle failures would not have happened with forged, machined parts.
    Ruger and a Spanish company make many cast parts for the firearms industry. They get away with it in the civilian market but the military requires forgings last I knew.
    Impact and fatigue resistance of castings doesn't compare with that of forgings. For that reason critical highly stressed parts shouldn't be cast.
    A recent Ruger revolver KABOOM displayed characteristic brittle failure. I believe either simultaneous detonations in several chambers or an overload in a cast cylinder took place.
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  • glabray
    I have one of the recalled PPKs which has the serial number suffix of BAD! Rather appropriate.
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