Rifle purchase "Sting"?
I don't know if this is the correct forum to ask this question, but I thought I would try.
I have some rifles up for auction on GB. I just received an email from a "member" that stated that he/she lived in a state that borders mine. They wanted to know if they were the winning bidder on the rifle, could they come over to my state and pick it up? Said it would be a "cash" deal.
I immediately responded with NO!
The more I thought about it, the more the offer looked like a "sting".
Am I reading too much into this?
Thoughts please.
I have some rifles up for auction on GB. I just received an email from a "member" that stated that he/she lived in a state that borders mine. They wanted to know if they were the winning bidder on the rifle, could they come over to my state and pick it up? Said it would be a "cash" deal.
I immediately responded with NO!
The more I thought about it, the more the offer looked like a "sting".
Am I reading too much into this?
Thoughts please.
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Staying out of jail seems like a good thing ![8D] 0 -
I had the same problem a few days ago on one of mine after the auction was completed. It was unusual that he wanted to drive from another state to central KY to save the $30 shipping charge. I said absolutely not. There was an argument over it in several emails. Guy finally said he thought I was in the same city of another state and that he was mistaken. Transaction went fine, but I still have to wonder about it. 0 -
You did the right thing...nambu 0 -
If it was legal which it is in some states i would probley do it. but i wont loose my gun right for nobody. so if its illagal in your state just walk away. 0 -
It's a long gun. If the sale and possession of that gun is legal in your state and his, it is a legal transfer. 0 -
I believe Nunn is mistaken.
You may transfer a firearm to a resident of your own state (state & local law permitting), or to a licensee in any state.
In this case, even if the buyer comes into your state, such a transfer would be a felony under federal law. But, I doubt that it was a sting; I have had this type request several times, & believe the fellas were just trying to save shipping costs and the fee charged by their local FFL.
Neal
EDIT: The difference is that Nunn is a licensed dealer, who IS permitted to sell a long gun to a resident of another state (provided that the buyer appears before him at his place of business, & such sale is legal in both states). But, taperloc is not a licensee, so he can't do it.0 -
When it comes to firearms sales, it's always wise to err on the side of caution. CYA 0 -
quote:I believe Nunn is mistaken.
You may transfer a firearm to a resident of your own state (state & local law permitting), or to a licensee in any state.
In this case, even if the buyer comes into your state, such a transfer would be a felony under federal law. But, I doubt that it was a sting; I have had this type request several times, & believe the fellas were just trying to save shipping costs and the fee charged by their local FFL.
Neal
Neal, if we were talking about a HANDGUN, you would be, and are correct. Since the question is about a RIFLE, I am correct.
I have transferred several long guns to Pa Redneck when he passed through here driving his truck. He lives in Pennsylvania, when he isn't making big bucks in Iraq, and I am in Texas.0 -
As I understand the ATF regs, if BOTH parties are unlicensed, then NO. I can drive to another state, and doa FTF purchase of a rifle from a licensee, but not private party. C&P from ATF FAQ-
B. UNLICENSED PERSONS
(B1) To whom may an unlicensed person transfer firearms under the GCA? [Back]
A person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of his State, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may loan or rent a firearm to a resident of any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may sell or transfer a firearm to a licensee in any State. However, a firearm other than a curio or relic may not be transferred interstate to a licensed collector.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(d), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]
(B2) From whom may an unlicensed person acquire a firearm under the GCA? [Back]
A person may only acquire a firearm within the person's own State, except that he or she may purchase or otherwise acquire a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee's premises in any State, provided the sale complies with State laws applicable in the State of sale and the State where the purchaser resides. A person may borrow or rent a firearm in any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(b)(3), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]0 -
I stand corrected.
Say, you boys from around here who regularly go to the Tulsa show, take note. [;)]0 -
I have heard of many unlicensed people who go to Tulsa and other gun shows and buy guns from other unlicensed people from other states (they usually say "we are private parties". This is a felony violation of Federal law. I hate to say it, but there really is a "gun show loop hole" where Federal laws are broken and disqualified people can buy firearms. Many sellers at least ask for state of residence ID, but most of the dealings I see at shows here are just cash for gun. In past days, only good hobbyists attended gun shows, now it seems a different breed have found shows a place to obtain guns unrestricted. I know some states have strict transfer regulations at shows, but most don't. Its going to be up to table holders (most of which are not FFLs) and people bringing in guns to make sure all laws are obeyed, so we don't lose these shows. 0
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