30 Caliber Rifle
I am looking at purchasing a 30 Caliber rifle and i have it broken down to "2" rounds: 300 Weatherby magnum, or the RUM could anybody tell me which one has the best ballistics or is just the best round?
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I'm pretty sure whatever you shoot with either cartridge, will not be able to tell the difference. 0 -
by the weatherby, ammo is much easier to acquire and cheaper 0 -
When they brought out the RUM they made sure that it would be, for the time being, just about the biggest and fastest production mag out there. Little did they know that the WSM was comming and would steal the RUM's thunder. I have a commercial Mauser 98 in 300 Weatherby and when I feel the need for a fast 30cal that is my go to rifle. Interestingly enough I don't find the need very often. I prefer either my 280Rem or 338WinMag, go figure..... 0 -
If it was me I'd buy a 30-06 thats about as much as my old shoulder will handle[:D] 0 -
RUM walks past the WTHBY at 200gr on up. There is no substitute for powder volume when it comes to velocity, yes there is a point where the increase in powder makes lesser and lesser increases in velocity, but physics still dictates it will continually get faster as more powder is burned. Also, the RUM will accomodate slower powders such as retumbo, wc869, etc that is a tadd too slow for the wthby. My first 1000yd bench rifle was chambered in 300RUM and it shoves a 200gr SMK at 3200fps[:0]
Also,..have you checked the rediculous prices on wthby ammo???? they sure are proud of that stuff[V] Anything that says wthby on it is overpriced hype IMHO. I have a MK V action that I bought because I wanted a match barrel that was on it,..so now we are currently trying to get it to reliably operate as a 338RUM with a REMINGTON barrel on it.0 -
I liken Weatherby Magnum caluburz n gunz.
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De Boer,
I consider Roy Weatherby to be the best game conservationist That has ever lived. His advocation of his line of over-bore magnums has taught more people to flinch than any one else in the history of firearms. Once a person develops a flinch, it can be controled but will never go away.
That said, I question the need to try & squeese the last 2% of performance from the 30 caliber when it is so simple to move up to say the 338 & start over with the lower weight bullets.
As has been stated in a previous post, more powder begets more velosity. It also produces more muzzle flash, noise, & wasted powder (lower eficiency).
The original post asks which is "best ballistics" & which is "best round". This discussion is just so much hot air without taking into consideration the vast number of variables other than just case volume & whose name is on the cartridge. Intended use, barrel length, bullet weigh preference, accuracy required (long throat/lead will gain velosity but sacrifice accuracy), is weight a limiting factor, ETC. all will play a part in choosing 'BEST'.
If it all boils down to "I want the biggest & baddest 30 cal ever," go for Weatherby's 30-378.
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For the question you asked, it is the 300 RUM, hands down. As has been todl, it likes heavier bullets, and really shines with a Berger VLD 210 grain. Very good ballistic coefficient, and really flat. Make sure you keep your barrel clean...every 10 shots or so, and don't get it hot. Burning 100 grains of powder is no small undertaking.
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If you don't "roll your own" your best bet is to get a 30-06 or 300 Win Mag, the cost of factory ammo for the either the RUM or Wthby will drive you to the poor house if you do even a moderate amount of shooting. 0 -
DeBoer,
Welcome to the Gunbroker Forums!
If you simply want to compare the ballistics of two cartridges, you can use the Federal website and the Remington website to do those comparisons:
http://www.federalpremium.com/products/rifle.aspx
http://www.remington.com/products/ammunition/ballistics/
These websites provide tables as well as graphic charts to see your selections. All of the information is available to print out.
This is a list of tables for specific cartridges:
http://www.rifleshootermag.com/ballistics/
The problem that I see with the comparison you need is that there is very little information that uses the heavier bullets. Most generic charts will limit the data to the 180 gr. bullets with one listing a 200 gr. bullet. As mentioned above, these cartridges are just getting started with the 180 gr. bullets and can make use of the heavier bullets in a great way. That is the reason behind these cartridges, shooting heavy bullets with high energy and better efficiency. Hyper-velocity loads make for good press and might get some of the lesser informed folks excited but the heavy bullet performance is the better use for your selections.
Here, the drawback is recoil of course. Large amounts of powder with a heavy bullet seated over it, moving with a healthy velocity in average weight rifles will get your attention in short order. Make sure that you are O.K. with recoil before you spend your money on a rifle chambered for one of these cartridges. There is usually no lack of rifles in the 'pre-owned' rack at the gunshops chambered for rifles that exhibit stout recoil.
My 'mountain' rifle is a .300 Weatherby that weighs 6-1/2 lbs. with scope and ammunition. My long range hunting rifle is the .300 RUM in a rifle that pushes 13 lbs. with scope and ammunition. I shoot the 210 Berger VLDs in both.
Use the tools available on the ammunition websites and see what you come up with and then let's see if we can help with any other questions.
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