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swampthing36
Well guys I had to make up my mind. I went with the pre 64 model 70 over the colt sauer. Ran the serial number; built in 1949. The old boy I bought it from believed in oiling his guns. I spend 6 hours cleaning the gun, to include dousing it with a tea pot full of boiling water! Still have to scrub off the steel buttplate. Gun is in 95% condition. 30-06. Trigger pull is about 500 lbs. Are they hard to adjust?
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  • dfletcher
    Not really, probably about 2 moving parts in the thing. I don't care for adjusting the Win trigger as much as the Remington 721, 722 or older 700 though. You've got to loosen a nut or two, then tighten them up. test it, do it again. Repeat until thoroughly PO'd. Actually not that bad, but it does take a bid of fiddling.

    You can switch out the trigger spring with a lighter version, that helps.

    30.06 with a steel buttplate? Ouch.
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  • swampthing36
    quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
    Not really, probably about 2 moving parts in the thing. I don't care for adjusting the Win trigger as much as the Remington 721, 722 or older 700 though. You've got to loosen a nut or two, then tighten them up. test it, do it again. Repeat until thoroughly PO'd. Actually not that bad, but it does take a bid of fiddling.

    You can switch out the trigger spring with a lighter version, that helps.

    30.06 with a steel buttplate? Ouch.
    I looked over the trigger and thought, nope let dad do this one. He's a Model 70 geek stem to stern. Steel buttplate, yep gonna hurt. The gun is built like fort knox. can't wait to get the hell kicked out of me!
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  • tsr1965
    Naaa...that steel butt plate won't hurt. You could put it on your chin and shoot it....just once though.

    When do we get to see pictures??

    Best
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  • Sage
    Hey swampthing36 Congrats- You made the right choice. Nothing like owning a Model 70. When my son turned 16 I got him a 1954 30-06. He is hooked for life. Enjoy
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  • Ambrose
    I have owned pre 64 model 70's since before there were post 64 70's. If I remember right(my memory is what I use to forget with!) I paid $75 for one and $105 for another. But, strangely enough, I've only recently acquired one in .30/06. It's a 1953 and came with a period Weaver KV in the early Redfield mount with the wide/narrow rings. It's in about the same condition as yours, swampthing. I don't know what there is about these old 70's, I guess they just look and feel like a rifle should? I wouldn't worry about that steel plate; those rifles are heavy enough that they don't transmit much recoil. And if your Dad knows how to adjust the trigger, by all means, have him do it. That trigger is another great thing about the 70. By the way, mine shoots great with 180 gr Sierra BT and 57 gr of IMR4831. Four 5-shot groups averaged 1.13". The average velocity was 2710 fps over my chronograph screens. Good luck!
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  • swampthing36
    quote:Originally posted by tsr1965
    Naaa...that steel butt plate won't hurt. You could put it on your chin and shoot it....just once though.

    When do we get to see pictures??

    Best
    I'll put my chin on the butt plate and shoot the rifle, AFTER you do it. Will try to get images this weekend. Weather looks cooperative.
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  • swampthing36
    quote:Originally posted by Sage
    Hey swampthing36 Congrats- You made the right choice. Nothing like owning a Model 70. When my son turned 16 I got him a 1954 30-06. He is hooked for life. Enjoy
    Thanks man. I get the hooked feeling everytime I look the gun over. My Dad told me he bought on in 1952 or 54, in .270. Regrets ever selling it. He lives far away but has shared my joy in the last week over this rifle. Can't wait to show it to him. The stories will flow.
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  • swampthing36
    quote:Originally posted by Ambrose
    I have owned pre 64 model 70's since before there were post 64 70's. If I remember right(my memory is what I use to forget with!) I paid $75 for one and $105 for another. But, strangely enough, I've only recently acquired one in .30/06. It's a 1953 and came with a period Weaver KV in the early Redfield mount with the wide/narrow rings. It's in about the same condition as yours, swampthing. I don't know what there is about these old 70's, I guess they just look and feel like a rifle should? I wouldn't worry about that steel plate; those rifles are heavy enough that they don't transmit much recoil. And if your Dad knows how to adjust the trigger, by all means, have him do it. That trigger is another great thing about the 70. By the way, mine shoots great with 180 gr Sierra BT and 57 gr of IMR4831. Four 5-shot groups averaged 1.13". The average velocity was 2710 fps over my chronograph screens. Good luck!
    Thanks for the kind words Ambrose. That rifle feels like a rifle; looks like one. My irish buddy Murph was over to see it two days ago. He said the same thing. It's my first pre 64 model 70, and the first one he's seen up close. We both shoot 30-06 ackley in our Encores so we've got some experience with the 06. I suspect mine will be enjoying IMR 4350, 4831, 4895, and RL 19 this year. I would expect the twist to be 1:10. Dad told me he was proud of me. Even at 46 yrs old, meant alot.
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