handgun shipping ?
shipping a pistol is supposed to be done overnight by fed-ex ground, right?, well what could happen if someone sent one fed-ex ground? is that against the law or just against fed-ex policy? or is the ffl supposed to notify fed ex - how could the ffl refuse the shipment when they would have to open it to see what it is and by then the fed-ex guy is long gone??
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There's no reason for the FFL to not accept the shipment, it is not the law but company policy that handguns go overnight. It reduces theft by their employees. 0 -
Yup. And if you have to make an insurance claim, it will be denied 0 -
It darn sure is a bite, it will set you back $70-$80. That is simply the cost of the games we play. If your $600 handgun disappears and the insurance claim is denied, being cheap won't look like such a bright idea. 0 -
Well first off you are REQUIRED to tell the shipper what you are shipping, when sending a firearm. In this case a handgun.
As a private seller you can ONLY ship common carrier not USPS, if you are a dealer that is different. Both Fedex and UPS have policies (not law) that require handguns to be shipped overnight.
If you are their shipping a handgun and the clerk chooses to send your gun by basic ground then how can your claim be denied? It is their policy and their clerk choose/allowed it to sent that how is that any fault of yours? You are not the one that should know their rules, their staff should.
I have not shipped with Fedex before but our local UPS hub is only open for a couple hours in the afternoon each day. Last time I shipped a handgun with them the clerk sent it 2nd day as there is no way to overnight it from our location. It cost about 1/2 of what I had estimated to ship it so I refunded the customer that money.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Nwcid
Well first off you are REQUIRED to tell the shipper what you are shipping, when sending a firearm. In this case a handgun.
As a private seller you can ONLY ship common carrier not USPS, if you are a dealer that is different. Both Fedex and UPS have policies (not law) that require handguns to be shipped overnight.
If you are their shipping a handgun and the clerk chooses to send your gun by basic ground then how can your claim be denied? It is their policy and their clerk choose/allowed it to sent that how is that any fault of yours? You are not the one that should know their rules, their staff should.
I have not shipped with Fedex before but our local UPS hub is only open for a couple hours in the afternoon each day. Last time I shipped a handgun with them the clerk sent it 2nd day as there is no way to overnight it from our location. It cost about 1/2 of what I had estimated to ship it so I refunded the customer that money.
You are not legally required to notify the carrier when shipping to an FFL, only when shipping to a nonlicensee.0 -
quote:Originally posted by EOD Guy
You are not legally required to notify the carrier when shipping to an FFL, only when shipping to a nonlicensee.
Well how do you propose to do that since it is ILLEGAL to ship to a "nonlicensee" unless they are in the same state. Even so you still HAVE to notify the carrier of ANY firearm shipment per FEDERAL law.
Right from the ATF:
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by carrier to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm. [18 U. S. C. 922(a)( 2)( A) and 922( e), 27 CFR 178.31]0 -
quote:Originally posted by Nwcid
quote:Originally posted by EOD Guy
You are not legally required to notify the carrier when shipping to an FFL, only when shipping to a nonlicensee.
Well how do you propose to do that since it is ILLEGAL to ship to a "nonlicensee" unless they are in the same state. Even so you still HAVE to notify the carrier of ANY firearm shipment per FEDERAL law.
Right from the ATF:
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by carrier to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm. [18 U. S. C. 922(a)( 2)( A) and 922( e), 27 CFR 178.31]
There are a lot of exceptions in the regulation that allow interstate shipments to nonlicensees such as shipments to law enforcement agencies, shipments to military officers, shipments by the CMP, returns from gunsmiths, shipments to yourself, etc.
Also, the BATF FAQ is not accurate. If you check the regulation referenced in the FAQ, it will tell you that notification is required when shipping to "other than" a licensee. BATF has conceeded that many answers in their FAQs are simplified and not complete.0 -
I bought something from the internet and purchased insurence they saved money by not insuring it.Needless to say it got stolen in the main hub. It was scaned in and never left. Fed Ex never paid, after a long hard process i got reimbersed by the seller. I would rather have the item i purchased because it was a great deal. To me if fed ex lets it get stolen they should pay whethery ou have insurence or not if it breaks its your problem. I hate fed ex!!!!!!!!!! 0 -
best to ffl to ffl 0 -
quote:Originally posted by bustinstainless
best to ffl to ffl
How is that best?
So you have to do a transfer to a local dealer. This dealer will normally charge a fee. Then you have to make sure he gets it shipped out and in a timely manner. If you have any problems along the way you have a another person involved.0
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