410/45 cal.
My neighbor has a 410 double barrel pistol/45 cal. bullet. Name on it is Cobray. He said you can fire one barrel and then select the other barrel. He has asked for my help but I know nothing about this gun. When I was young it was illegal to own a 410 pistol, don't know if it still is. This doesn't look like an antique so I'm wondering if it is a reproduction. Can anyone give me some info on this gun? It looks nearly new, shot very little. I would appreciate anything you can tell me. I can't put pictures on here, but have some that I can email if need be. Thanks very much.
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www.cobray.com/
Why not call customer service/tech. support?0 -
Cobray made many of these little guns. I can not tell you much history on them though.
As for the ".410 pistol" being illegal that is not quite accurate as the rules for these have been the same since 1934.
First of in legal terms there is no such thing as a "shotgun pistol", an item that looks like one is either a AOW (any other weapon) or SBS (short barreled shotgun). Depending on how it was made will depend on which one of the two it is. If they are registered properly with the ATF under what is called the NFA will determine if they are legal or not.
What you have is NOT a "shotgun pistol" what you have is a NORMAL pistol (I am assuming that is has a rifled barrel) that HAPPENS to be able to fire shotgun shells. If the bore is smooth (no rifling) then see my above answer about AOW and SBS.0 -
I'm not familiar with the cobray but several other makers have created a legal .410/.45 handgun by having rifling in the last inch or two of the barrel. The ones I have tried do a surprisingly good job of stabilizing .45 Colt bullets. With .410 loads that short length of rifling doesn't seem to spread out #6 shot the way it does if fired in a long chambered .45 Colt carbine. The .410 3-ball 000 buckshot loads place all three balls fairly close together at 10 yards or less. 0 -
The Judge by Taurus, the T/C 410/45 LC handgun length barrel and the Bond Derringer 410/45 LC "Snakeslayer" are good examples of a federally legal handgun that has the capability of firing a fixed shotshell. They are all of course illegal in CA because CA defines them as an SBS simply by their ability to accept a shotgun shell, that the barrels are rifled is not a factor. Another reason my "California Dreamin'" is to leave. [^] 0 -
these little guns made in Tennessee [now] are held together with "E"
clips on the pins...Cobray [J.DANIEL MFG]was just the first to make them...other mfg.produced them later, the same way. MOST ARE ACCIDENTS WAITING TO HAPPEN...I had several brought to me to repair, but I refused to work on them [CHAIN OF POSSESSION= LIABILITY if something happens later]
I think that they are mfg. by LENID now.
my 2 cents [old pistolsmith thoughts]0 -
Thanks very much to all for their good information. I sure do appreciate it. 0 -
I have the Judge and the T/C (although a 14" barrel is not REALLY handgun length) both in .45LC/.410(2-1/2" chamber) and love them both.
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