S&W Sigma 9
Has anybody had any experience with the S&W Sigma 9? What I need to know is the reliablity and accuracy of this model.Thanks in advance.
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I have experience with the sigma 40. basically its a glock copy from S&W, its a cheaper way to have a decent gun. I heard stories about the magazines falling apart while shooting, however, never seen it happen. I shot several hundred rounds through one and worked every time. Did have a mag floor plate crack, but contacted S&W, they sent a new one and I sent the broke mag back. Definately and good enexpensive shooter. Like most will say, it all depends on you. what you like, and how the gun performs for u. 0 -
Its reliable.
As to accuracy, if you were to put the gun into a machine rest and fire it, it would probably deliver good INTRINSIC accuracy.
But in the real world, human beings aren't machine rests, and things like the quality of the sights and the trigger pull affect shooters ability to achieve PRACTICAL (ie real world) accuracy in shooting.
The biggest problem with the Sigma series guns is that these guns usually have a really heavy trigger pull.
While a heavy trigger pull can reduce the chance of accidentally/negligently shooting the gun, practically speaking, the heavy trigger on these Sigma pistols makes shooting them accurately difficult. Nobody would ever confuse a Smith Sigma for a "match" or "target" pistol!
On the other hand, how much accuracy do you really need? Most defensive shooting incidents occur at less than 20 feet distance. With more than 20 feet distance, you're going to have a hard time convincing anyone that you HAD to shoot someone.
So I would argue to you that this gun is accurate enough for its intended purpose of home or personal defense. If you practice with a few boxes of ammo, you'll be shooting as well with this gun as you'd probably need to in an emergency.
Also, despite the bad trigger, you're still dealing with a modern design gun from a reputable manufacturer made from high quality components. So assuming I could get a good price on it, I'd still rather have a Smith Sigma than many inexpensive (ie "junk") guns from smaller manufacturers.0 -
I guess that I'll pee on everyone elses parade...not that I am any kind of expert...but I have experience with both the Sigma 9mm and the enhanced Sigma .40 in a law Enforcement capacity....
The Sigma suffer from two problems.....feed ramp problems causing feeding issues and a sloppy mushy trigger....if you have the opportunity to dry fire a Sigma before you buy one I suggest you do that...then dry fire a Glock and you will see why the Sigma is $200 less.
regarding my experience, I worked for an Agency that traded in the S&W 5906 in for the Sigma(at the time the Sigma was the new hottest rip off of the Glock) We had so many feeding issues that S&W replaced them at no cost about 12 months later with what they termed the "enhanced" .40. Enhanced because S&W discovered that the feed ramp angle was too steep causing the feeding issues. However the .40 still suffered the awful trigger and had feeding issues aswell. So fortunately an Administrator finally made a good decision and traded the Sigmas for Glock 22s...which they should have bought in the first place...
Anyways that was my experience...regarding reliability..if it fed properly it always went bang...like I said I'm not an expert, just relaying my experience0 -
i have owned the first generation to the last generation
first gen same trigger pack as glock
glock sued they changed it
the c and f glock style are reliable
v or ve hit and miss i had a satin silver,40sw, one jammed every shot sent it back to the factory came back with the same problem
then came the black and silver 9mm same problem as the satin silver
the 357 sig model flawless,at the time ammo was through the roof
i then went with the 9mm with rail the newest 1 only problem, not really a problem though, every time the spent shell ejects theres a big dent in the front of the casing0 -
I have a SW9F (an early model Sigma 9). The accuracy is great. I can keep it in a 12" circle at 100 yds offhand if I do my part. The reliability is awesome with no FTF or FTE in 500 rds. However, a friend of mine bought a new SW9VE and had nothing but trouble with jamming and misfeeds. So, it seems to be hit and miss. Maybe the earlier models have fewer problems. The Sigmas are much more comfortable to me than the Glock pistols and fit my hands much better. So, YMMV, but keep an open mind! 0 -
quote:Originally posted by airmung
I can keep it in a 12" circle at 100 yds offhand if I do my part.
You need to lead my security team. [:0]0 -
quote:Originally posted by CowboyHokie
quote:Originally posted by airmung
I can keep it in a 12" circle at 100 yds offhand if I do my part.
You need to lead my security team. [:0]
I think he needs to lead the American Olympic bullseye pistol team! [;)]
On reliablity, I'd like to add one relevant comment.
The Smith Sigma, is cloned from the Glock, which was originally conceived and designed as a 9mm (not .40) pistol.
Because the .40 is a bigger round, squeezing it into the same frame size means the feed ramp has to protrude a bit more into the chamber, creating less room for loading, and making loading a bit less reliable, particularly with certain bullet shapes.
With a 9mm gun, not only do the rounds have more room to build up speed and get into the chamber, but the tapered shape of the cartridge helps as well.
The point is, 9mm guns in general (and probably in this case specifically) tend to be more reliable than .40s built on the same platform.0 -
I've had my 9F for 10+ years and it has always been reliable and accurate enough, I'm not real picky about the trigger but I could understand other's not liking it. It is the most comfortable pistol I own as far as how it fits my hand. 0
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