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Hopkins & Allen revolver

Curt W
I just came across a Hopkins & Allen bone handled revolver marked "calibre Winchester 1873." I guess that means 44-40 as I have a '73 rifle in that caliber. The bullets for that seem to fit niclely in this gun. It is a 6 shot single action with loading ramp on right side, nickle plated, with no apparent serial number. There are patents referenced on the barrel from 1874 thru 1877. It also has a lanyard loop on the bottom of the handle. The barrel and chambers swivel out for maintenance. There is no reference to this particular caliber in the Blue Book. Anyone familiar with this gun?
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  • upjumtddebl
    Sounds more like a Merwin and Hubert but without pictures you won't get much info
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  • Curt W
    I showed it to a gunshop owner and he said it is built like the Merwin and Hubert, but it is marked Hopkins & Allen.
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  • upjumtddebl
    Some merwin hubert guns were marked as hopkins & allen but if you want to research it you will have to start with the history of merwin hubert . thats all I got but others will be along on this site who might be able to fill you in meanwhile try googleing it
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  • glabray
    Merwin & Hulbert (not Hubert) was a design and sales organization not a manufacturer. They contracted with manufacturers to build guns to their unique designs. Hopkins & Allen made a lot of them.
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  • upjumtddebl
    Bad spelling aside Merwin Hulbert owned Hopkin&Allen so I would think you could call them manufacturers as well
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  • rufe-snow
    "Flayderman's Guide" has a section devoted to these revolvers, along with pictures of 3 different variations. There not common, as they weren't made in great quantity as compared to Colts and S & W's, made in the larger calibers.

    Value as in all antique U.S. firearms would depend on factory originality and cosmetic condition.
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  • Curt W
    Upjump was right. M & H made this gun. Thanks for the help. It is worth more than I thought, but not much. I just plan to hang it next to my Winchester 73 rifle as a wall hanger true to the era.








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  • v35
    The serial number is located on the rear of the cylinder with one digit between each chamber and also under the left grip.
    You may also find a different number on the right side below the grip.
    Merwin and Hulbert were agents not a manufacturer. H&A was the manufacturer.
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  • upjumtddebl
    I never said they were not agents for other companies but in this case it was their design,their factory and their name on the gun and I would think they could be called the manufacturer they were 50 percent owners in the H&A factory and controlled their own designs and manufacturing separate from H&A products
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  • Curt W
    After some internet research, it appears I have a fairly rare fourth model "Frontier." My newest "Blue Book" is probably ten years old and estimates the value from $4,000 down to $600, depending on condition. Does anyone have a current Blue Book? I would appreciate knowing what it might be worth. There is a Second Model listed on armchairgunshow for $2,350 and they are more plentiful than this one. Thanks for all the help.
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  • Curt W
    Oh, and the serial number is 622.
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