Unknown... what is it? Thirdworld creation?
Hello all...
Just got this rifle from my client & I am clueless... Is it botch-job someone pieced together? What is with the square steel rod? If you pull on the hooked end of it, it is spring loaded but doesn't seem to do anything - cock or lock... Trigger does nothing. Maybe the rod strikes the gunpowder when the trigger releases the spring holding the rod in place??? No idea [:)]
I would guess the "stove bolt" machine screw is not original. It has no markings whatsoever! Any ideas/guesses?
Just got this rifle from my client & I am clueless... Is it botch-job someone pieced together? What is with the square steel rod? If you pull on the hooked end of it, it is spring loaded but doesn't seem to do anything - cock or lock... Trigger does nothing. Maybe the rod strikes the gunpowder when the trigger releases the spring holding the rod in place??? No idea [:)]
I would guess the "stove bolt" machine screw is not original. It has no markings whatsoever! Any ideas/guesses?
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WOW BUBBA at his best . IMHO at one time some of the parts was a gun built with SOME skill the lines of the stock are almost PLEASING [:0]. I suspect that as it now appears this was made by someone that lived in a third world country that took some parts Stock and maybe a pipe for a barrel and other metal parts. but not a working LOCKWORKS. but maybe a round wire spring like a small Valve spring .He modified the parts he had. The square rod could be pulled to the right to compress the spring a cap placed on a nipple and the trigger would let the square rod go right to left and fire the Cap. Value [?][?] Interesting wall hanger. 0 -
"the square rod could be pulled to the right to compress the spring a cap placed on a nipple and the trigger would let the square rod go right to left and fire the Cap."
Yea you said it better than I did... It looks like I might actually be able to get it to engage but the spring tension on the square rod is incredible. The trigger feels like it wants to catch the rod...we'll see!
Bubbafied!
Doug - there is no rifling... smooth bore drainpipe! [:D]
I don't have anything precise to measure with besides a cheap plastic caliper... Bore measures approx 7/16". The barrel is 39-1/2" long & gun is 54" overall.
After a bit of messing with it the "Action" actually works! Cock it by pulling on the loop end & it locks open till pulling the trigger! Pretty cool & unusual piece! I am enjoying all the comments!0 -
That's what it looks like.
Maybe home-built by a black - I'm sorry - African-Americansmith.
Is the barrel rifled ??
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I recall seeing an old photograph of a hunter in South America shooting a similar type of long barreled rifle straight up into the trees at some unknown target but thats all I got 0 -
Can you mic the bore to get some idea if it's a standard size/gauge ??
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I Saw one of these Cobbled together Guns several years ago...I friend brought it by the Office to show it off... His Son got ahold of it from an Afganni Gunsmith while in country...Quite an invention actually..! He told us that the primary ignition was a Match Head...when Percussion Caps were unavailable...! Offered to purchase it from Him...but he decided that it was gonna be a keeper and declined the Offer... 0 -
I have seen a few guns like that over the years, most if not all were bring backs from the Vietnam war, they were made by the vietcong during the early years due to the shortage of weapons. 0 -
Stage gun or decorator. 0 -
Thanks all the for interesting info! Putting it up for auction to see what happens... 0 -
I owned a similar "wall hanger" back in the '50's. I ws told it was an early 1800's 'trade musket', made for export to the "colonies" in exchange for really valuable stuff like furs, jewels, slaves, spices, etc. One story I heard was that these were given to clave-catchers...those locals who would round up others for the slave market. I believe it was called a side-hammer percussion arm. Allegedly, the Empires didn't want the colonials to have first-class firearms and it became a status symbol for the aboriginals to have any gun at all. As long as it went "boom", everyone was happy until the natives saw that it was junk compared to the colonial soldiers. Have you tried sending a photo to the NRA museum curator? 0 -
I don't recall seeing these in asia in the 60's or 70's. It is a little too ornate. Obviously it was meant to imitate a better quality firearm with the wood 'recoil' pad and white spacer line. 0
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