S&W M-19 / 686 ssr,Speed loader same?
Will a S&W 686 SSR use the same speed loader as a model-19 ?
Tomorrow is the big day finally I get to buy my new Smith&Wesson.
I may use this as a on duty revolver as a security guard,or not.my future is still unclear as I am a recent victim of this economic turn down.To young to retire yet It's going to be tough finding work at my age.
thankfully my X company is being generous with my severance.but I have decided against buying 2 guns.hard to justify the $700 for a 617 22LR to save money on ammo.But every cent is going to matter while on unemployment.any way I'll try to get back on topic.
I had decided on the 686 plus.I like the extra fire power having a seventh chamber gives you an edge.Imagine a bad guy counting 6 shots then rushing out of cover for the kill.Dumb surprise!
But the 686 SSR I can get a deal on it & if I don't have to Buy new speed loaders and the belt holder for them(no way a seven round speed loader is going to fit in that space).anyway that savings a lone will Just about pay for the upgrade to a performance center gun.
I have never fired a gun with a trigger job.Are the up grades worth it ,or not?Forged trigger and hammer,Chamfered charge holes, and a better barrel?
Oh and that 627-5 got sold so that decision has been made for me.
Tomorrow is the big day finally I get to buy my new Smith&Wesson.
I may use this as a on duty revolver as a security guard,or not.my future is still unclear as I am a recent victim of this economic turn down.To young to retire yet It's going to be tough finding work at my age.
thankfully my X company is being generous with my severance.but I have decided against buying 2 guns.hard to justify the $700 for a 617 22LR to save money on ammo.But every cent is going to matter while on unemployment.any way I'll try to get back on topic.
I had decided on the 686 plus.I like the extra fire power having a seventh chamber gives you an edge.Imagine a bad guy counting 6 shots then rushing out of cover for the kill.Dumb surprise!
But the 686 SSR I can get a deal on it & if I don't have to Buy new speed loaders and the belt holder for them(no way a seven round speed loader is going to fit in that space).anyway that savings a lone will Just about pay for the upgrade to a performance center gun.
I have never fired a gun with a trigger job.Are the up grades worth it ,or not?Forged trigger and hammer,Chamfered charge holes, and a better barrel?
Oh and that 627-5 got sold so that decision has been made for me.
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No. The spacing in the cylinder isn't quite the same. 0 -
NO. A new speedloader is under $10. There is no need for a "trigger job", unless you are doing a lot of bullseye shooting. A GOOD revolver's trigger will be just fine for security work. 0 -
No, the K-frame speedloaders don't work with L-frame revolvers, because the cylinder sizes are different. Obviously you're not going to get ANY 6-shot speedloader to work with a 7-shot gun!
As mentioned, new speedloaders will run you about $12 each, so I wouldn't worry too much about that. Yes, they are available in 7 shot versions.
Since the cylinder diameter is the same on the 6 and 7 shot L-frame guns, if you have a pouch that will hold the 6-shot speedloaders, it should also hold the 7-shot ones. If your pouch is a snug-fit for K-frame speedloaders, I don't think it will work with 686 speedloaders of any capacity.
To me, getting the 7-shot version for a service gun is a no-brainer. If your life is on the line, capacity counts.
Is the performance center gun worth it? Depends on what you are doing with the gun. I'd say a gun like that is really more intended for heavy-use in competition than as a service gun.
The better barrel realistically isn't going to help you.
A stock 686 is a highly accurate gun already, and probably shoots better than you can. Realistically, unless you are shooting competitive bullseye, you'd probably never notice the difference, especially if you aren't carrying match-type ammo (which you aren't!). Further, you really don't need that sort of pinpoint accuracy in a service gun anyway. If you were a good enough shot to take advantage of it, you probably wouldn't need it at all! [;)]
The forged trigger and hammer sound nice (and maybe even look nice). . .but considering that the likelihood of you wearing out a STANDARD 686 trigger or hammer is virtually nil (and if you did, Smith would probably replace either for free anyway), I'd say that isn't money well spent.
Chamfered charge holes. . .don't hurt, but that's really more of an advantage if you are loading wadcutter rounds (eg for bullseye or other competition). With standard rounds, this doesn't decrease reload speed by much, and even less if you are using a speedloader.
The action job, on the other hand, is something that probably *could* benefit you, mainly with respect to a lighter double-action (hopefully NOT so light that reliability is compromised!).
If that's what you are interested in, it might make more sense economically do take a stock 686 and send it to the Smith performance center (or a reputable third-party gunsmith) for an action job, rather than pay for a bunch of bells and whistles that really won't help you. But you probably don't "need" it.
Remember the 686 and its blued steel brother the 586 were originally designated by Smith as the "distinguished combat magnum". Admittedly, the name is a bit hyped, but the gun was designed from its inception to be a service revolver, and I think they work just fine in that role as stock guns.
If I were to use one in that role, personally, the only thing I'd do to it is to make sure it had a friendly set of rubber grips on it, if it didn't come that way. Personally, I like the Hogue grips that come standard on the newer guns, but that's a question of personal preference. Pachmayr are good too, and there are others that could work as well.0
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