1911 45
I HAVE A 1911 US ARMY 45 MY GRANDFATHER USED IN WWI.
I HAVE BEEN TOLD ITS WORTH MORE THAN MOST BECAUSE IT IS STAMPED
SPRINGFIELD ARMORY AND ALSO HAS AN EAGLE STAMPED ON IT. IS THIS TRUE?
ANY BALLPARK ON ITS WORTH? THANKS FOR ANY INPUT.
I HAVE BEEN TOLD ITS WORTH MORE THAN MOST BECAUSE IT IS STAMPED
SPRINGFIELD ARMORY AND ALSO HAS AN EAGLE STAMPED ON IT. IS THIS TRUE?
ANY BALLPARK ON ITS WORTH? THANKS FOR ANY INPUT.
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Is there a model of the 45 1911 that is double action? I have always thought that the "Cocked and Locked" was a bit over the top. 0 -
Colt made a model at one time called the Double Eagle and I think Para-Ordnance made a DA model also. 0 -
Paraordanance (sp?) made the LDA which is sorta 1911 like, Colt tried with the Double Eagle.
Personally I'd think on the CZ97b0 -
I have always carried a 9mm and am looking to "upgrade" (???) to a 45 due to my new position into Rural Security. I LOVE my Taurus, I have a PT92AF and am leaning towards the 845, but also like the 1911. (Oh... and I am in California.) 0 -
quote:Originally posted by David Moore
Is there a model of the 45 1911 that is double action? I have always thought that the "Cocked and Locked" was a bit over the top.
That's sort of a semantic issue.
If its not a single action, is it "really" a 1911 pistol? [;)]
I'm not particularly fond of "cocked and locked" myself, but I don't think its any less safe, than say the so-called Glock "safe action", which has no manual safety at all, and in terms of trigger energy necessary to set off the gun is roughly comparable to a "cocked and UNLOCKED" 1911!
If you don't like "cocked and locked" there are a gazillion other pistols out there you can pick from.
But to answer the question, there have been several guns similar to 1911s made with double-action firing mechanisms.
As mentioned, Para-Ordinance has its LDA "light double action" pistol, and that's probably one of the best of them.
As mentioned, Colt made a "double eagle" which was sort of a double-action 1911, though it was a commercial flop and wasn't made all that long. I'd pass on that one.
Interestingly, at the request of an American manufacturer (and it might have been Colt, I can't remember), at one point CZ made a gun that uses a CZ-75 like action, but with a grip deliberately designed to mimic a 1911. This is it, the CZ40B.
Its not "really" a 1911, but it sort of gives you the look/feel of one in a more modern DA design:
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Back in the late 70's/early 80's time frame, Lewis Secamp made a limited number of after market double action conversations for the 1911A1 Colts. They weren't really viable, as Sig model 220's were being imported at this time. Anybody who wanted a double action .45, could buy a factory original Sig, cheaper off the shelf from a dealer.
Because of the limited number produced, double action Secamp .45's are collectors items now.0 -
Colt shows the double action on their web site for sale! I think this will be the original configuration of the Model 70 Era pistol. I was told in the military that there had been more people accidentally shot with the 1911 single action than any other pistol. When I think cocked and lock I think about safety!
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quote:Originally posted by David Moore
I have always carried a 9mm and am looking to "upgrade" (???) to a 45 due to my new position into Rural Security. I LOVE my Taurus, I have a PT92AF and am leaning towards the 845, but also like the 1911. (Oh... and I am in California.)
I say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
If there is a gun you "love" that's working well for you, why swap it for some unknown that you aren't as proficient with?
EDIT: If you are looking for a DA .45ACP, then
+1 to EAA Witness .45ACP.
Its basically similar to the CZ97B only costs less and is easily caliber convertible to other calibers.
Note that it has a pretty fat grip, and it may not be suitable if you have small hands.0 -
Look into the EAA Witness line of 45's. Based on the CZ75 design at one point, now an almost independent design, and the steel guns are excellent and priced right. I would still take a good 1911 and carry cocked and locked. Keep your "stuff" wired tight and you will not have an issue with the method. 0 -
I would not consider myself as an "Expert" but I would never, ever carry any type of handgun with the hammer back! I know I will most likely get bashed but I just think that is asking for trouble. I also never carry a revolver with a loaded round under the hammer. Maybe old fashioned, maybe too cautious, whatever the case may be, I feel safety is always first and foremost! At over 60 years old, I have never been in a situation that I didn't have time to pull back on the hammer. 0 -
I carried a 1911A1 cocked and locked for a year and a half in Viet Nam and never had a problem. I've carried concealed back here in the world for close to 40 years, a good share of that with an officers size 1911 without shooting myself on anyone else unintentionaly. It is my opinion that cocked and locked is the safest most effective way to carry a 1911. I beleave the 1911 is the finest personel defence handgun ever built, period. Take time and learn how to shoot, carry and maintain one. You'll be glad you did.
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David;
Couldn't agree with the Captn any more. He is exactly right. I feel the 1911 is the greatest engineered weapon around. Been workin on em and carrying them for years. Cocked and locked is the only way.
CaptnMidnight, on a side note, that Leupold 8X is perfect on that 220Swift. Thanks!
Paul
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