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model 94 winchester forge marks

woodhog
I'm looking at a 1906 model 94 winchester and the description includes forge marks.why would they be apparent on this receiver?
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  • cussedemgun
    woodhog,

    'pears to me you are the recipient of a "tall tale". The only way a reciever would have original forge marks would be if it were a 'lunch-box-special' & left the factory before the pollishing & finish operations.

    Most likely it is a reciever that was draw filed to remove pitting & the file marks are still visible (my best guess without seeing it).

    Have you asked the seller for an explanation?

    Jim
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  • XXCross
    Forge marks are a phenomenon that occur after the passage of time. They may be unsightly, but I've never known then to be detrimental.
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  • Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by cussedemgun
    woodhog,

    'pears to me you are the recipient of a "tall tale". The only way a reciever would have original forge marks would be if it were a 'lunch-box-special' & left the factory before the pollishing & finish operations.

    Most likely it is a reciever that was draw filed to remove pitting & the file marks are still visible (my best guess without seeing it).

    Have you asked the seller for an explanation?

    Jim


    Jim,

    No, it is not a case of a "tall tale", and yes, all of the original early production Model 1894s (as well as several other models) do indeed exhibit visible signs of the steel forging striations when the bluing begins to wear. Those of us who collect old Winchesters specifically look for those visible striation marks, as it is a positive indication that the gun has not been refinished/restored.

    Edit: The is the Model 1894 in question - http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=207254075
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  • woodhog
    thank you gentlemen. You are truly a valuable resource.
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  • pdog72
    Bert,
    Just to clear this up for me and maybe some others, are you talking about what appears to be long scratches running lengthwise on the receiver? I have several old Winchesters with very little finish left that look like the rifle in the link you posted
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  • Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by pdog72
    Bert,
    Just to clear this up for me and maybe some others, are you talking about what appears to be long scratches running lengthwise on the receiver? I have several old Winchesters with very little finish left that look like the rifle in the link you posted


    Yes, those are the forging striations. When an old Winchester is buffed & polished prior to being refinished, they disappear... forever. The complete lack of striations on an early Model 1894 is a dead give-away that it has been redone.
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  • Bert H.
    Here are a few detailed pictures that show what the striations look like on the Model 1894...

    http://www.rarewinchesters.com/gunroom/1894/M94-0003559/04.JPG

    http://www.rarewinchesters.com/gunroom/1894/M94-0122466/03.JPG
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  • pdog72
    Thanks Bert, always glad to learn something new. Merry X-mas.
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  • Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by pdog72
    Thanks Bert, always glad to learn something new. Merry X-mas.


    You are quite welcome[:)]
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