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ejohns06
Anyone have info on this gun? Thanks.
Octagon Barrel 26"
Rifling in barrel
Permenant sling swivel
Extra fine brass sites
Pull back hammer
Breech load primer?
Engraved on bottom of barrel G.DECORTIS
Upper case L
Crown and under it JJ
E and right below it LG then star under that
Star and under it Z or it is a star then an N next to it
The breech opens with a pull on the breech cover
Any info on this gun would be appriciated. Ed
If you need photos I can email them. Thanks.
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  • Spider7115
    I suspect you have a Flobert-type rifle made by Belgian gunmaker G.Decortis. Google Flobert rifle and you will find a wealth of information.

    Does your action look similar to the picture below?

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  • ejohns06
    That is it! Tell me more.
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  • Spider7115
    quote:Originally posted by ejohns06
    That is it! Tell me more.


    They were primarily used for indoor parlor shooting, using bb or cb caps without powder, and made in heavy volume from the 1890's through the 1920's . They're very common and collector interest is minimal. With a few exceptions such as fancy, engraved, Schuetzen-style "Exhibition Grade" Floberts, common models generally run in the $150 range in good condition.

    WARNING! Do NOT attempt to fire modern ammo in it!
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  • ejohns06
    Thanks, going on the wall or sell to pawn shop.
    I got another one for you. This one is a muzzleloading shotgun, side by side double with precussion cap hammers, two triggers, wooden dowel packer, you can see the twist in the metal of the barrels. On top it reads Real Twist, stamped on the bottom of barrel are the following.
    9116
    crown with a K under it
    E on top then LG then star all inside a circle
    on the part securing the barrels together is stamped 44 underneath
    17.8
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    JM
    There is a shear pin to remove and the stock seperates from the barrels.
    Any idea?
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  • Spider7115
    quote:Originally posted by ejohns06
    Thanks, going on the wall or sell to pawn shop.
    I got another one for you. This one is a muzzleloading shotgun, side by side double with precussion cap hammers, two triggers, wooden dowel packer, you can see the twist in the metal of the barrels. On top it reads Real Twist, stamped on the bottom of barrel are the following.
    9116
    crown with a K under it
    E on top then LG then star all inside a circle
    on the part securing the barrels together is stamped 44 underneath
    17.8
    7
    JM
    There is a shear pin to remove and the stock seperates from the barrels.
    Any idea?


    Your shotgun is also from Belgium. It's likely one of millions of utility shotguns made by any one of various Belgian gunmakers and shipped to the US prior to 1914. The most common maker was Henri Pieper. As yours is percussion, it was probably made in the 1860's.

    These shotguns are often referred to as an "ABC" shotgun, translating to "Another Belgian Clunker". Value depends on quality and artisanship but generally sell in the $200-$250 range as wallhangers if in good condition.
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  • ejohns06
    This is not in good shape, the right barrel has a bulge in it. They have been in my dads possesion for many years and he gave them to me recently. I have 3 sons and I don't want them to one day try to shoot them so I guess I will take whatever the pawn shop offers me. Thanks for the info. Have a great thanksgiving.
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  • Spider7115
    quote:Originally posted by ejohns06
    This is not in good shape, the right barrel has a bulge in it. They have been in my dads possesion for many years and he gave them to me recently. I have 3 sons and I don't want them to one day try to shoot them so I guess I will take whatever the pawn shop offers me. Thanks for the info. Have a great thanksgiving.


    Twist barrels combined with a bulge can lead to a major catastrophe if fired. You could probably get more on our auction side than a pawn shop will give you but it's definitely no more than a wallhanger.

    Happy Thanksgiving to you as well! [:)]
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  • Hawk Carse
    I think I'd de-firing pin them and hang them on the wall as decorators. Something of Dad's after all.

    You will not get much from a pawn shop, they aren't all Pawn Stars.
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  • huntsman53
    If you are determined to sell them, then take out an Ad in a local Trade or Newspaper or pass the word around at some local Sporting Goods Shops or Gun Enthusiast hangout. A Pawn Shop might give you $150 at best and they are worth more as Wallhangers and in rememberance of your Dad!
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  • ejohns06
    I have plenty of good guns to remember pops when he is gone, winchester pre 64 mod 88 in .308. I am sure he will use it this weekend to take another deer. I have 3 sons and don't want them to try and shoot one of these clunckers when they are teenagers. Guess it will be up to dad regarding what happens to them.
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