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1911 Remington Rand 45 S/N 111

topcop
I acquired this weapon years ago, not knowing what I had, I have shot it numerous times. Couple months ago I was firing it on the line when I was asked "why are you firing that weapon"? I asked why. He told me I had a very valuable pistol. So I have been trying to find how valuable it is. I would appreciate any response to this Forum. I have not been able to find the serial number in books I have screened. The weapon is in excellent shape. It has the greenish tint. Thanks. Top Cop
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  • MOONED
    There are others who who monitor this forum, have a great deal of knowledge in the area of 1911's. They will be along shortly but will ask for detailed pictures to confirm exactly what you have.
    If nothing else, please provide a description of the pistol, with identifying markings and the specific location of those marks. Also, refer to the link below to post photos.

    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=259294

    Another thing you can do is go to the auction side of Gunbroker and review the Rands that are for sale there. You can determine your approximate (and current) value by going to the main page and following these steps. In the top right corner is a "smart search" option. Click that link and sign in. Once signed in, you can simple put "Rand" in the search field and look at all recent completed auctions on Rands. You can then see what recent "sold" values are going for.

    I hope this helps,

    Aaron
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  • Hawk Carse
    Sounds odd.
    Official Remington Rand serial numbers started at 916405 in 1942.
    Of USGI 1911s, only Colt and Remington UMC started at 1 in 1912 and 1918, respectively.

    HOWEVER, there were about 150 Remington Rands in what is known as the ERR (Experimental Remington Rand) series, numbered separately. They were experimental models used in product development - Rand had some trouble achieving interchangeability with other contractors' guns - and were later given to company executives and favored employees. See and read at:
    http://www.coolgunsite.com/images/1911/1943 errs 61 rr/remington_rand_errs.htm

    If you have one of those, it is worth a good deal of money and it would not be smart to keep putting wear and tear on it.

    But it is going to take pictures, close, clear, and complete; showing all markings and parts.
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  • perry shooter
    ARE YOU sure this is a REM RAND frame . I would like to see detailed pictures of all inspector marks and all other marks on the frame You also need picture of slide with roll stamp. frames were not marked with a makers name but each maker of WW II pistols had their own sets of markings . On top of that there are many Clone frames over the years. Page 314 of Clawson Big Book has Remington Rand serial 131 and state these were given to Employees and officials at the END of WW II unlike the serial N0. ERRS XXX "XXX could be any number"that were pistols during war production and resented experiments and processes. Did this pistol ever belong to some one that worked for Remington Rand during or shortly after WW II
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  • Jeepflexin
    Get some clear, close up pics to Perry Shooter and he will be able to tell you exactly what you have. You probably wont find a more knowledgeable 1911 guy unless you talk to Clawson himself.[^]

    Here is an example of a 3 digit serial number Rand in about perfect condition:

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=190667982

    I'd expect yours is the same (at least based on the serial number), if it can be proven that it was a factory employee gun it probably helps value, unless it is like the one in the above auction (new in box) I would think it could fetch $1800-2000. If it has been monkeyed with the price will drop significantly.

    Normal production pistols if not rusty or monkeyed with will bring $1,200-1,600, depending on condition. Shooter grade pistols that have been monkeyed with can bring $400-600 depending on who wants it.

    I would not be to afraid of shooting it either, once it has been fired shooting it on occasion does not devalue it. Believe it or not when the manufacturer design a firearm they intend for it to be shot so assume your weapon is designed to be shot.[:D] I'd probably be cautious on who I let handle it though. I still on occasion shoot both of my Remington Rands, it always gets attention too.
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