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  • mark christian
    There are no transferable examples in private hands so your chances of owning one as a private citizen are zero. There are some Pre-1986 dealer sales samples floating around and these generally sell for $8,000 to $10,000...But you need to be a Class 3 dealer to purchase. The vast majority of these pistols are Post-1986 restricted sales samples and out of reach to everyone but the police and military. Class 3 dealers can purchase them but cannot keep them as personal property...These are not "keepers" as we say in the MG trade.

    The pistol itself can't seem to make up it's mind as to whether it wants to be a machine pistol or a SMG. Although it looks like a Beretta Model 92 it is actually quite a bit larger and a lot wider. The 92 already had a reputation for being too bulky and the 93R is even more so. The larger trigger guard allows the shooter to loop the thumb of his off-hand around the front of the guard and then grasp the little fold down grip at the front of the frame. This is supposed to allow for steady fire but since the pistol is limited by design to three shot bursts I feel it is a useless features and only increases the bulk of the pistol making it harder to conceal. The same can be said for the extended barrel with the muzzle break...It just makes the gun bigger than it needs to be. The 93R controls are easy to use and the sights are fine for it's intended purpose. The tricky little wire shoulder stock is useful if you have time to snap it into place, otherwise you need to find some way to carry it around on your body or you'll end up leaving it in the front seat of the car and forget about it. A vz-61 or Micro-Uzi, which keep their stocks attached are better systems.

    Then entire concept of a machine pistol is to allow for a very compact pistol which can provide a lot of fire power during a very brief confrontation (typically life or death). In These situations three shot bursts are not an advantage; you want to lay down some lead! The Glock 18 or even the old Mauser Model 712 (and their Spanish and Chinese copies) as well as the old Star MD are true machine pistols and much better suited to this application.
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  • wpage
    Thanks for that. Sounds like its suited for Italy or Honduras only...
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  • paolo
    quote:Originally posted by wpage
    Thanks for that. Sounds like its suited for Italy or Honduras only...

    Sorry,i'm italian and i don't understand this phrase.
    Can you to explain? I'm learner to your language.Thank you.
    Paolo
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  • wpage
    According to the article the 93R is legal in Italy and Honduras.
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  • paolo
    quote:Originally posted by wpage
    According to the article the 93R is legal in Italy and Honduras.

    O.K.,thank you.In Italy really it is forbidden for the civil market.
    I have tried this gun because i were in a special force of the italian
    Police.I concord with the judgement of Mark,but it is a gun....
    charming!
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  • wpage
    Here is some interesting info on the Father of the 93R...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_92

    Uncle Sam liked them so much hes got over 500,000 in the M9 and counting. The Marines have their Modified version with a rail M9A1
    They bought several thousand for the corps.
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  • OLDCOP
    In my federal agent days, I evaluated this SMP and determined that it was not suitable for a protective service role. It took too much time to train on, didn't provide much more than the Model 92 did and was not easily used by everyone. Full auto was not ideal, so any other quality pistol was more employable. It would have made a great "toy" but not one anyone could buy privately.
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