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Can I sell a handgun that I do not know if it has ever been registered and do not know who the original owner was?
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I am a new seller & have been asked to accept a postal m/o instead of using paypal. he says paypal is anti gun & will take the money. I have an escrow account. How should i respond? 0 -
You don't read much do you?
Paypal will lock your acct and your money if used for firearms.
USPS MO is the best way to go.
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How does paypal know what is being paid for? 0 -
You have a PP account and havent read the rules? How do you know what they are not messing with your money somehow? Pretty easy info to find. I would suggest you read up on what you are agreeing to before agreeing to things in the future.
https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?cmd=_render-content&content_ID=ua/AcceptableUse_full&locale.x=en_US
Prohibited Activities
You may not use the PayPal service for activities that:
violate any law, statute, ordinance or regulation
relate to sales of (a) narcotics, steroids, certain controlled substances or other products that present a risk to consumer safety, (b) drug paraphernalia, (c) items that encourage, promote, facilitate or instruct others to engage in illegal activity, (d) items that promote hate, violence, racial intolerance, or the financial exploitation of a crime, (e) items that are considered obscene, (f) items that infringe or violate any copyright, trademark, right of publicity or privacy or any other proprietary right under the laws of any jurisdiction, (g) certain sexually oriented materials or services, or (h) ammunition, firearms, or certain firearm parts or accessories, or (i) ,certain weapons or knives regulated under applicable law
relate to transactions that (a) show the personal information of third parties in violation of applicable law, (b) support pyramid or ponzi schemes, matrix programs, other "get rich quick" schemes or certain multi-level marketing programs, (c) are associated with purchases of real property, annuities or lottery contracts, lay-away systems, off-shore banking or transactions to finance or refinance debts funded by a credit card, (d) are for the sale of certain items before the seller has control or possession of the item, (e) are by payment processors to collect payments on behalf of merchants, (f), are associated with the following Money Service Business activities: the sale of traveler's checks or money orders, currency exchanges or check cashing,or (g) provide certain credit repair or debt settlement services
involve the sales of products or services identified by government agencies to have a high likelihood of being fraudulent
violate applicable laws or industry regulations regarding the sale of (a) tobacco products, or (b) prescription drugs and devices
involve gambling, gaming and/or any other activity with an entry fee and a prize, including, but not limited to casino games, sports betting, horse or greyhound racing, lottery tickets, other ventures that facilitate gambling, games of skill (whether or not it is legally defined as a lottery) and sweepstakes unless the operator has obtained prior approval from PayPal and the operator and customers are located exclusively in jurisdictions where such activities are permitted by law.0 -
When your buyer starts the procedure for paying you, Paypal gives him a box where he enters what the payment is for. If he enters "gun", "gun part", "riflescope", or anything else that could be related to a firearm, they will freeze your account. You may have to wait 6 months to get access to any money you have in your account.
Yes, a USPS MO is a little more trouble, but the Postal Service is not against the 2nd amendment. Let's try to put Paypal & ebarf out of business by taking our business elsewhere.
Neal
"Sic semper tyrannis."0 -
Besides all the reasons listed,,,you will get more money when the M.O. comes in. EVERYTHING doesn't have to be instant these days. Patience Grasshopper,,you will be rewarded. 0 -
Just my opinion - but I would not buy - or attempt to buy anything unless it is a face to face sale or through a gun dealer - which most gun sales or purchases should be done through a gun shop and not over the internet.
I will relate to you a story that recently came to light between two guys that were good friends on another forum.
One guy had a gun he wanted to get rid of and the other guy had a gun he owned - that the other guy wanted.
They both claimed to be gun dealers and gunsmiths.
So they swapped.
One guy put his gun in a box and shipped it FedEx and the other guy took his gun to a gun dealer and the gun dealer took it apart, boxed it for him and sent it by way of USPS.
10 days later - since the one guy lives in Alaska, the postman comes to the door and hands the guy his gun and the box has damage and the action inside of the box has damage and the gun was insured for $500 - because the other person did not want to pay a lot of money for insurance.
The gun was a Model 70 Winchester / 300 H&H Magnum - 1955
The $500 would not cover the replacement value of the rifle and instead of getting mad at the person that sent it to him, he got mad at the US Postal service.
Needless to say - this person was born in 1955 and collected Model 70 Winchesters from that era and is running around like a spoiled little kid, throwing a tantrum and is taking it out on everyone around him - except his buddy - which did the trade.
If you were like me - you would think that this looks a little fishy.
There is two problems with sending a money order.
Lets say the person doesn't actually own the gun and lets say he only claims to own the gun and lets say you send him the money order and he cashes it and you don't get your gun.
The funny part is - the postal service will not give you your money back and there is no way to do a stop payment.
I have seen it a thousand times.
If the gun is that important to you - either take a trip and pick it up in person and thoroughly inspect it before you buy it - or have it sent to a gun shop - where the gun shop's gunsmith can go over the firearm and make sure that it works and has no defects before you plunk out hard earned cash.
Don't just hand over money, sight unseen - or it might be the last time you ever see it.
If I had all the money that I lost buying stuff off Ebay - where the seller misrepresented themselves and the item they were selling - and got my money back - I wouldn't be typing what I am typing right now.
Good Luck!0 -
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Boone
Just my opinion - but I would not buy - or attempt to buy anything unless it is a face to face sale or through a gun dealer - which most gun sales or purchases should be done through a gun shop and not over the internet.
Do you know another way to buy a gun? I sure dont. Unless you buy a gun face to face it has to be shipped to an FFL for transfer..........
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or have it sent to a gun shop - where the gun shop's gunsmith can go over the firearm and make sure that it works and has no defects before you plunk out hard earned cash.
See above the gun HAS to be shipped to an FFL. Sadly good gunsmiths are getting harder and harder to find. Most FFL's are not gunsmiths.
I would be hard pressed to find a seller that will ship their firearm anywhere without some form of payment.......0 -
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Boone
Just my opinion - but I would not buy - or attempt to buy anything unless it is a face to face sale or through a gun dealer - which most gun sales or purchases should be done through a gun shop and not over the internet.
I will relate to you a story that recently came to light between two guys that were good friends on another forum.
One guy had a gun he wanted to get rid of and the other guy had a gun he owned - that the other guy wanted.
They both claimed to be gun dealers and gunsmiths.
So they swapped.
One guy put his gun in a box and shipped it FedEx and the other guy took his gun to a gun dealer and the gun dealer took it apart, boxed it for him and sent it by way of USPS.
10 days later - since the one guy lives in Alaska, the postman comes to the door and hands the guy his gun and the box has damage and the action inside of the box has damage and the gun was insured for $500 - because the other person did not want to pay a lot of money for insurance.
The gun was a Model 70 Winchester / 300 H&H Magnum - 1955
The $500 would not cover the replacement value of the rifle and instead of getting mad at the person that sent it to him, he got mad at the US Postal service.
Needless to say - this person was born in 1955 and collected Model 70 Winchesters from that era and is running around like a spoiled little kid, throwing a tantrum and is taking it out on everyone around him - except his buddy - which did the trade.
If you were like me - you would think that this looks a little fishy.
There is two problems with sending a money order.
Lets say the person doesn't actually own the gun and lets say he only claims to own the gun and lets say you send him the money order and he cashes it and you don't get your gun.
The funny part is - the postal service will not give you your money back and there is no way to do a stop payment.
I have seen it a thousand times.
If the gun is that important to you - either take a trip and pick it up in person and thoroughly inspect it before you buy it - or have it sent to a gun shop - where the gun shop's gunsmith can go over the firearm and make sure that it works and has no defects before you plunk out hard earned cash.
Don't just hand over money, sight unseen - or it might be the last time you ever see it.
If I had all the money that I lost buying stuff off Ebay - where the seller misrepresented themselves and the item they were selling - and got my money back - I wouldn't be typing what I am typing right now.
Good Luck!
Mr. Daniel Boone,
You might want to go check out the auction side, before you continue on. Most of the auctions have decent pictures with them, and if the seller is asked, they will send more. There are seller/buyer tutorials, and just about every tool one needs to make a legal firearms purchase, including a link to FFL dealers who will do firearms transfers for seller's(should state or local laws require being shipped from an FFL), and buyers. All of the sellers, and buyer's have ratings, which are statements from the persons on the other side of previous transactions...they are the ruler to judge potential problems with.
Also, are you sure that the parent case of the 308 winchester is the 300 Savage? I do believe it is a bit short to be so. Try the 30-06 perhaps?
To the original poster...as you have been told, you will get more money faster with a USPS MO. if Pay-Pricks catch you, doing a transaction for goods they do not approve of, you will be months getting your account with them straightened out.
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Daniel Boone: You are welcome to seek another discussion forum, for your attitude toward internet sales does not belong on a forum that is supported by a site that facilitates internet sales.
OK? Bye now.
PS: Your account is not locked. I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Maybe you thought the forums supported the auctions, not vice versa.0
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