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what is the best caliber to get the best bang for your bullet when using a 100 gr. shell? 6mm ,25-06, 243, 270 or any cal. I'm not thinking of. It is for hunting in the Texas hillcountry or West Texas. thanks
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Placing my vote for the 257 Roberts. In plus P guise it really shines! 0 -
IMHO i think the .244 cal in 100 gr. would give you the best SECTIONAL DENSITY 0 -
I would place my bet with a 25-06, 25 WSSM(my personal favorate 25 cal), 25 Souper, 257 Roberts, or 250 Savage. Of course I would load it with a Barnes Triple Shock.
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260,
Don't flatter yourself. Besides, I qualified my answer when I said Barnes Triple Shock bullet. With the construction of that bullet, and the expansion, and weight retention, I don't need to tell you what to do with your sectional density.0 -
What is the attraction of a 100 grain bullet? (Not "shell.")
Sure, a 100 grain .243 Win, 6mm Rem, .250 Savage, .257 Roberts, or .25-06 will do anything to a deer that needs doing. (Check that rifle and ammunition are available enough for your needs in anything on that list but .243.)
But if I were going hunting with a caliber outside of that range, it would have a different weight bullet. Anything using a .264" bullet would get either a 129 or 140 grain bullet, a .270 a 130, and a .30 of most any sort a 150. A .22 centerfire will kill a deer if you are a good game shot, using a 60 grain bullet or so.0 -
quote:Originally posted by jefdan
what is the best caliber to get the best bang for your bullet when using a 100 gr. shell? 6mm ,25-06, 243, 270 or any cal. I'm not thinking of. It is for hunting in the Texas hillcountry or West Texas. thanks
Are you looking for the best caliber and grain of bullet for your' Buck, one which will do the job close and long range under varying conditions and terrain, on different types of game and not tear a hole in your' wallet? If so, then the .270 in 130 grain recommended by Hawk Carse is probably the best for your money that can be cheaply purchased at most Sporting Good Retailers or here on GB!
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as stated, the 100gr pill in a 6mm will provide the highest sectional density of any 100gr offering in any caliber. When pushed by a 243win, it will smack deer down like lightning.
However, in a 257wthby it will exceed the velocity of the 243, and do as well or even better, but at the cost of more powder and throat erosion.0 -
thank you justc many folks just don't really understand things.quote:Originally posted by JustC
as stated, the 100gr pill in a 6mm will provide the highest sectional density of any 100gr offering in any caliber. When pushed by a 243win, it will smack deer down like lightning.
However, in a 257wthby it will exceed the velocity of the 243, and do as well or even better, but at the cost of more powder and throat erosion.0 -
quote:Originally posted by 260
thank you justc many folks just don't really understand things.Originally posted by JustC
as stated, the 100gr pill in a 6mm will provide the highest sectional density of any 100gr offering in any caliber. When pushed by a 243win, it will smack deer down like lightning.
However, in a 257wthby it will exceed the velocity of the 243, and do as well or even better, but at the cost of more powder and throat erosion.
260,
I really understand things more than you think! Although the OP posted a question for 100 grain bullets, they also poised the info for a .25-06, .243, .270 and/or any other caliber! When considering cost of purchasing a low cost off-the-shelf ammo for these calibers, loads with 100 grain bullets are virtually non-existant. I know for a fact that 100 grain loads in .270 are not readily available and believe the same exists for the .25-06. These are mainly available as professional...Custom loads or reloads! When answering the OP's question, myself and I believe that Hawk Carse were both giving the best and cheapest load available off-the-shelf. Besides, a 100 grain bullet shot from a .25-06 has a significantly higher Ballistic Coefficient, higher Velocitites and greater Energy Foot/lbs than a 100 grain bullet shot from a .243!
I am a big proponent of caliber vs velocity vs mass (grain of bullet) when it comes to getting the job done for specific game! I prefer rifles chambered in 7mm Remington Magnum and 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum and only use the 140 grain Core-Lokt PSP Remington Factory loads. Now, if you want a game dropping caliber and bullet combo for ranges from zero to 1,000 yards or more, for any conditions or terrain, then try this combo!
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ooooooh, I didn't know we were taking cost or availability over the shelf into it[:I]
the sectional density of a 100gr .244" pill will always be more than a 100gr pill at any diameter larger than .244". That is simple physics. the Length of a bullet in any given weight, sets that factor. Take 2 bullets manufactured in the same manner, by the same manufacturer, both in 100grs. One is .244" in dia, and the second is .257" in dia. The smaller dia bullet will have a higher sectional density than the larger bullet since it is longer and thinner.
That does NOT take into account velocity differences, in either caliber. For a similar comparison, one should, let's say, take a 257-06 (25-06) 100gr pill and test it against a 6mm-06 100gr pill. If the bullets are the same, and leave at equal velocities, the 6mm pill will penetrate deeper due to a higher sectional density.0 -
quote:Originally posted by JustC
ooooooh, I didn't know we were taking cost or availability over the shelf into it[:I]
I may have read into the OP's question wrong but that is how I answered!
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the sectional density of a 100gr .244" pill will always be more than a 100gr pill at any diameter larger than .244". That is simple physics. the Length of a bullet in any given weight, sets that factor. Take 2 bullets manufactured in the same manner, by the same manufacturer, both in 100grs. One is .244" in dia, and the second is .257" in dia. The smaller dia bullet will have a higher sectional density than the larger bullet since it is longer and thinner.
That does NOT take into account velocity differences, in either caliber. For a similar comparison, one should, let's say, take a 257-06 (25-06) 100gr pill and test it against a 6mm-06 100gr pill. If the bullets are the same, and leave at equal velocities, the 6mm pill will penetrate deeper due to a higher sectional density.
Again, I was responding with available off-the-shelf loads and won't argue sectional densities of the two, since again, I was referring to these and not reloads or professional loads.
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I'll agree with JustC about SD. However, I see 100 gr. .257 cal on the shelf around here...
However, the original question is pretty much the same argument/question, over and over again, of two deer lying there dead one killed with the .243" dia. bullet and the other killed with a .257" bullet and asking which one is deader? I guess that would go back to the OP. You can take ten different cartridges and load them up and all will kill a deer or elk very effectively and still this argument goes on. Why? Somebody's gotta talk up or down about someone else's choice? In the inimitable words of ESPN's football reviews on the week: C'Mon Man!.... The .30-30 is still killing deer. Shoot what you like! Cartridges come in different sizes and heritages. I'm thinking it's heritages that draws the most attention on this. But they all shoot well. Get what you like and use it.
FWIW, a 100 gr. bullet is available in .243 (Fed, Nos, Horn, Prvi, Win) 6mm Rem (fed, Horn, Win) and 25-06 (Fed, Horn, Nos, Prvi, Win) Sorry .257 Rob. guys, the market doesn't sell enough to make this in your cartridge anymore. Too bad, the 100 gr. and especially 75-87 gr. really shoot well here. a ton of velocity for not much wear and tear on your barrel. Great times shootin' these.0
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