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M1 Garand Question

CS8161
I know that there are narrow base and wide base gas
cylinders for M1 Garands.. I have been told that a
M1 Garand (manufactured around 1944) should have a wide base
cylinder... My question is, will a narrow base fit the
rifle? there seems to be more narrow base cylinders up for
auction then wide base...

thanks

rick
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  • CS8161
    I just picked up an M1 Garand in great condition, the receiver is marked on the left side C A T Gorgia, VT. The stock is after market, as it has no inspector stamps or other markings on it.
    Can anyone give me an idea what this is? Who C A T is? Is value comarible to armoury rebuild?
    Thanks for the help.
    W.D.
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  • nmyers
    There is likely a grain of truth in just about every statement you were told, but most of it inaccurate.

    The US military did convert some service grade rifles to "National Match" configuration for use in competitive shooting.

    Last year a friend paid $1,000 for a "National Match" rifle (without consulting with me first), & I found it was a $400 shot-out "rack grade" rifle with a $35 National Match front sight.

    When you post the photos of the rifle, including parts & government documentation, we'll let you know what he has.

    Neal
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  • Herschel
    As Neal said, some military M1 Rifles were rebuilt into National Match grade rifles. Others were made up on new receivers into NM rifles.

    The serial number would be helpful in identifying what you have.

    The eagle with the three stars on the stock is an acceptance stamp and is not unique to NM rifles.
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  • CS8161
    quote:Originally posted by Herschel

    As Neal said, some military M1 Rifles were rebuilt into National Match grade rifles. Others were made up on new receivers into NM rifles.

    The serial number would be helpful in identifying what you have.

    The eagle with the three stars on the stock is an acceptance stamp and is not unique to NM rifles.


    The stars are on the receiver, not the stock. I'm still waiting for the seller to drop it off so I can get some photos.
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  • wpage
    You could go to the source...
    http://www.thecmp.org/m1garand.htm
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  • BOWWMAN
    The Garands that were converted to Match grade guns by crane were in 7.62 not .30-06 and it will be clearly marked on the barrel, lock the bolt to the rear and you should be able to see it stamped there. Never heard of any stars on the reciever.
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  • 32 Magnum
    Here'a link to Scott Duff's write-up on the "real deal" M1 National Match rifles - everything you need to know about IDing them is here.
    Enjoy:
    http://www.scott-duff.com/NationalMatch.htm
    Let the buyer beware: There are TONS of faked National Match Rifles out there. One of the worst ones I've seen had "NATIONAL MATCH" stamped along the mid barrel in 1/2" font, as well as laterally along the left side of the butt stock. In general, if it doesn't have a Springfield Arsenal receiver - look at it with a cautious eye.
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