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Tell me about this FAL--please

shootuadeal
I don't know alot about these rifles, could you guys tell me a little about it. When/where made, metric/standard?, approximate value. I am gonna list it soon and don't know alot about these rifles.

Here are the pics:

Thanks alot for your help

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  • iwannausername
    Imbel "gear logo" receiver - good stuff, only licensed manufacturer still making them.

    Metric kit - unknown to me, but there are lots of little variations. Depending on who built it, it may be a good one. If not, you have the basis to make it a good one.

    If you start replacing parts, you'll need to worry about 922r
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  • DRP-AZ
    Imbel Type 03 metric receiver installed on Austrian STG58 FAL parts kit.

    Looks to have had no refinishing done. Like many homebuilders, the original assembler probably didn't install any US parts to make it 922r compliant.

    21" bbl, non chrome lined barrel and chamber (most of them, barrels exhibiting the "egg wearing a crown" Belgian proofmark sometimes were chrome lined) Other than the sheetmetal handguards and the "Stoll" type flash hider/grenade launching spigot, it operates like almost every other FAL rifle.

    I wouldn't pay more than 500 for it, unless you can verify that there are at least 7 US parts in the rifle, or 5 in the rifle and 2 in the magazine.

    Feel free to email me if you have more questions.
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  • shootuadeal
    So this isn't a legal model if it doesn't have 7 U.S. made parts or what? I don't get what you mean.

    Thanks for clarifying it.
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  • rufe-snow
    quote:Originally posted by shootuadeal
    So this isn't a legal model if it doesn't have 7 U.S. made parts or what? I don't get what you mean.

    Thanks for clarifying it.



    If your a FFL dealer and you sell it without the required number of U.S. made parts to be legal, you could lose your FFL. Even as a non dealer the JBT's could cause you a lot of grief, if they wanted to made a issue out of it.

    To enlighten yourself about the requirement for the certain number of U.S. made parts that the FAL is required to have. GOOGLE "922r compliance".
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  • shootuadeal
    Thanks guys. The owner says it is compliant.
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  • cpermd
    quote:Originally posted by shootuadeal
    Thanks guys. The owner says it is compliant.


    Of course he did!
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  • iwannausername
    And it is only an issue if you built it or start replacing parts (at least the 922r parts). Replace one of 'em, and you have to make sure all are in compliance.
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  • DRP-AZ
    total 922r prosecutions since 1990 when it was implemented: zero.

    Why? Because there's no provision to mark the parts in any way.

    I worry about it because folks will say that they put the extra couple hundred into the gun to make it compliant, to recoup their couple hundred bucks. Later on the buyer finds out that he was merely paying the seller a bonus.
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  • cbyerly
    I agree with AZ. The batfe has a lot more on the plate than to come looking at parts installed on rifles. It is pure paranoia to worry about them.
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  • Grasshopper
    quote:Originally posted by cbyerly
    I agree with AZ. The batfe has a lot more on the plate than to come looking at parts installed on rifles. It is pure paranoia to worry about them.


    +2...Its like when they surround your house and ask,,,kick in your door,,,and ask,,was that bayonet on that AK before 94!!?
    Just my though on that particular subject,,,sell it.[:I]
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  • beantownshootah
    My understanding is that the 922R prohibition is against MANUFACTURING (ie assembling) the gun. . .

    NOT possessing it.

    Since its near impossible for the BATFE to prove who assembled any given gun, and since it can be difficult (though not necessarily impossible) to tell where individual parts were made (let alone when) so far as I know the BATFE has NEVER actually tried to prosecute anyone for 922 violations.

    Its not clear to me how they would even know what parts are in any given gun short of disassembling it (for which they have to a. have the gun, and b. have probable cause). So if you don't give them a reason to look, you're probably fine.

    If they do find a gun that isn't compliant, again my understanding is that they simply confiscate it (and probably read the riot act to the owner). Whether or not this is legal is a whole other issue, but in practice, its not worth it to fight this (for any number of reasons), so they can get away with it.
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