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The Remington Response to CNBC's 'expose'

nononsense
I think it's important to see the other side of the 'report' that CNBC showed on TV. You can make up your own mind, that's not what this is about. Rather, it's a putting forth of information sponsored by the company being accused.

Here is the link to the station:

http://www.remington700.tv/#/home

Be aware that there are a ton of videos to watch so don't watch the intro and leave unless you just don't want to spend the time.

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  • Spider7115
    You might want to move this over to General Discussion.
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  • nononsense
    Spider7115,

    If I'd wanted it in General Discussion, I would have placed it there. This is Ask the Experts and the Experts should have the information available for their use.

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  • 5mmgunguy
    Appreciate the information, very informative.
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  • Spider7115
    quote:Originally posted by nononsense
    Spider7115,

    If I'd wanted it in General Discussion, I would have placed it there. This is Ask the Experts and the Experts should have the information available for their use.

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    No offense intended. Since there was no question for the experts, I thought maybe you accidentally posted it in here. I've done that myself.
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  • midnightrunpaintballer
    Good info. Thank you.
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  • rhmc24
    This is another example of the anti-gun liberal media manufacturing a story.

    News media is inherently a manufacturing business, gathering bits of info to tell a story. The liberal media spin, distort or otherwise configure events to support their agenda. The conservative media investigate and build from facts, often giving both sides of an issue.
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  • hdcolt51
    Thanks for the info!
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  • sandwarrior
    quote:Originally posted by rhmc24
    This is another example of the anti-gun liberal media manufacturing a story.

    News media is inherently a manufacturing business, gathering bits of info to tell a story. The liberal media spin, distort or otherwise configure events to support their agenda. The conservative media investigate and build from facts, often giving both sides of an issue.


    While I fully believe that gun-haters are driving this, it doesn't mean that Remington is totally off the hook. If you will note in the video they never give a clear and concise reason why the trigger could go off if there was junk/rust within the mechanism itself.

    I've never personally been an over-the-top fan of the Remington safety system. Certainly not now there is even better safeties out there that are newer than the safest 'old safety'.

    FWIW, if you saw the CNBC show (again very skewed) you would have seen that even Mike Walker would have like to have built a better safety for the rifle.

    That said I do hope Remington comes out of this okay. As there were also clear mitigating facts about the triggers being altered and maintenance of the rifles in question very suspect. And lastly, the bottom line is never point your weapon at something (someone) you don't intend to shoot. #1 rule. I'm sorry for the losses of their loved ones.
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  • wpage
    When they say the 700 has a crisp trigger. That is for certain. So crisp everyone tweaks it. Therein lies the problem. Some tweak it wrong.
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  • JustC
    quote:Originally posted by sandwarrior
    quote:Originally posted by rhmc24
    This is another example of the anti-gun liberal media manufacturing a story.

    News media is inherently a manufacturing business, gathering bits of info to tell a story. The liberal media spin, distort or otherwise configure events to support their agenda. The conservative media investigate and build from facts, often giving both sides of an issue.


    While I fully believe that gun-haters are driving this, it doesn't mean that Remington is totally off the hook. If you will note in the video they never give a clear and concise reason why the trigger could go off if there was junk/rust within the mechanism itself.

    I've never personally been an over-the-top fan of the Remington safety system. Certainly not now there is even better safeties out there that are newer than the safest 'old safety'.

    FWIW, if you saw the CNBC show (again very skewed) you would have seen that even Mike Walker would have like to have built a better safety for the rifle.

    That said I do hope Remington comes out of this okay. As there were also clear mitigating facts about the triggers being altered and maintenance of the rifles in question very suspect. And lastly, the bottom line is never point your weapon at something (someone) you don't intend to shoot. #1 rule. I'm sorry for the losses of their loved ones.


    what I gathered was that the triggers were dirty/poorly maintained, OR, they were altered.

    Sandwarrior, you know as much as I do, pert near everyone who ventures into the accuracy game, such as yourself and myself, tweek the trigger, or have a gunsmith do it. The problem is, only QUALIFIED gunsmiths can tell when any factory trigger has been adjusted too far, and they are EACH very different. I had a gunsmith take one to 2lbs, and said it would go lower, safely. I also that same smith, take one only to 3.5lbs, and say that was the limit of it's safety zone. BUT, bottom line, an adjusted trigger means ZERO liability for Remington.

    Keep this in mind (not you sandwarrior, I know you already know this) but if you send a rifle back to remington for warranty work, etc, and the trigger has been altered, they install a new unaltered trigger, and charge the owner fo the new part and keep the old one.

    Now, to the better safety versions, I assume we mean the winchester 3 position safety. That would add an easy $150 to the retail cost of a remington 700, which would quite likely price them out of the market.

    I hope it never happens to me, and I am also sorry for the folks who have suffered due to some issue with the trigger.

    I also want the complainers, or experts, to send their rifle, that malfunctioned, back to remington (UNCLEANED AND UNTOUCHED) to see if remington can replicate the issue. I see too much missing information in the report to show a design flaw versus a human mistake, be it maintanance issues, or hamm fisting the trigger at Bubba's house.
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