Berry's plated bullets load data
Does anybody have load data for Berry's Preferred Plated bullets?
I have 45/185 HBRN DS --- 45 ACP
and
44/240 HP DS --- 44 Mag/Special
I have 45/185 HBRN DS --- 45 ACP
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44/240 HP DS --- 44 Mag/Special
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Just to be used for plinking. 0 -
Use any of your favorite plain lead bullet loads.
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IMHO plated bullets are a waste of money and dont shoot as well as Jacketed OR PLAIN LEAD. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by cpermd
Use any of your favorite plain lead bullet loads.
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Even though they're plated?0 -
quote:Originally posted by perry shooter
IMHO plated bullets are a waste of money and dont shoot as well as Jacketed OR PLAIN LEAD.
These were actually cheaper than the plain lead.
And they didn't have any plain lead 44 bullets.0 -
"Plated bullets occupy a position between cast bullets and jacketed bullets. They are soft lead, but have a hard outer shell on them. When loading plated bullets we have found best results using low- to mid-range jacketed data in the load manual. You must use data for a bullet that has the same weight and profile as the one you are loading. Do not exceed mid-range loads. Do not use magnum loads."
http://www.berrysmfg.com/faq-q9-c1-How_do_I_load_Berrys_Preferred_Plated_Bullets.aspx0 -
My article on plated bullets will be in the next issue of Handloader magazine. I tested bullets from Berry's and Rainier in four cartridges.
I didn't push them to more than 1000 fps, and it took a bit of fiddling to get them to shoot accurately, but they ended up being about as good as my other loads with cast bullets. That means groups of about two inches at 25 yards, handheld.
Plated bullets are much better than they used to be. Some guys who tried them years ago are still grousing about their results, but haven't tried them since. They might be pleasantly surprised now.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Toolfogie
"Plated bullets occupy a position between cast bullets and jacketed bullets. They are soft lead, but have a hard outer shell on them. When loading plated bullets we have found best results using low- to mid-range jacketed data in the load manual. You must use data for a bullet that has the same weight and profile as the one you are loading. Do not exceed mid-range loads. Do not use magnum loads."
http://www.berrysmfg.com/faq-q9-c1-How_do_I_load_Berrys_Preferred_Plated_Bullets.aspx
Thanks. I saw that. I guess that I can't use these for magnum loads.
What I can't figure out though is "same weight and PROFILE." Obviously, I have figures for the same weight, but I don't have anything for Hollow Base or Hollow Point cast.0 -
The profile of the bullet affects its bearing length, and therefore its friction level. It's that simple. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
The profile of the bullet affects its bearing length, and therefore its friction level. It's that simple.
So does the Hollow base matter? Or can I use the information for cast lead round nose since these are round nose?0 -
I just loaded that bullet a week ago (.45). 6.0 gr bullseye with 1.200" OAL. Feeds well and puts bullets in the same hole. Moderate recoil. No Chrony, sorry. 0 -
No, the hollow base does not matter. That hollow is due to the final sizing, done after plating, by the way. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by gknaka2
I just loaded that bullet a week ago. 6.0 gr bullseye with 1.200" OAL. Feeds well and puts bullets in the same hole. Moderate recoil. No Chrony, sorry.
What does that load compare to in your manual? In other words, is that half way between cast and jacketed? Is it the same as cast? etc.?
The reason that I ask is that I don't have bullseye powder. I have accurate arms powder.0 -
For 44 Special, load your 240s with 4.2 to 4.7 of Acc#2 or 6.1 to 6.8 of Acc#5.
In 45 ACP, load 185s with about 5.5 to 5.8 #2 or 7.8 to 8.7 #5. I have to say "about" because that's data for a cast 200-gr. It'll be fine.0 -
About 2 down from the top on the website below, a gentleman references the rainier plated bullet and accurate arms powder. Probably a good starting point.
http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=45 ACP&Weight=185&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source=
I use Berrys bullets exclusively and take Jacketed -10%. Never had a problem. I use the LEE 3rd edition book.
I get great results with Titegroup, W231, and Bullseye. Not sure if AA is a good .45 powder.0 -
Thank you both. If I decide to keep these bullets, I'll definitely use your information. Right now, I am considering returning them. I know that I can get lead cast for the 45 ACP for a few dollars more. My cousin is going to check what he has cast for the 44 that he can send me. 0 -
Calruger...if you like Berry bullets one word of advice. Do not buy the .45 200gr SWC that looks like an upside down ice cream cone. Jamfest. I had to chamber load each bullet and spent 4 hours at the range shooting 200 rounds.
I would DEFINITELY use cast if my range allowed it.0 -
Here's a nifty coincidence: Handloader magazine #269, page 84.
(Just got my copy. I blush.)0 -
quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
Here's a nifty coincidence: Handloader magazine #269, page 84.
(Just got my copy. I blush.)
Is it online? I don't get Handloader yet.
It's irrelevant now because I was able to find lead cast for both calibers, but I'd still like to have the information.0 -
It will be online after the next issue is out. They don't put the current one up - for obvious reasons. Wait two months or hit the newsstand! 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
It will be online after the next issue is out. They don't put the current one up - for obvious reasons. Wait two months or hit the newsstand!
Thanks. I'll look for it.0
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