Mystery Shotgun
I picked this shotgun up a couple of years ago in South West Asia. I was curious if anyone might be able to tell me ANYTHING about it. Such as who made it, value, is it actually from England, is it actually an antique, so on and so forth. The left barrel fires 60% of the time every time, and the right barrel fires every time. It is not threaded for chokes nor did it come with any. The barrels are 18" in length. Anything anyone might be able to tell me about it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Hi guys,
I found an old, rusty shotgun receiver and barrel that I am going to restore, but I can't find any model numbers. If you guys could help me out, that would be great.
Nothing on the receiver except a few things. On the back where the stock screw would go, "M.N.S" is stamped there. On the other side, there is a "3" on top of a triangle. The serial number is "47928" with an "A" (or a strange triangle) stamped above it.
The barrel has all kinds of stuff on it. "NICKEL STEEL" "Manufactured by the Winchester Repeating Arms Co. New Haven, Connecticut. U.S.A. Pat Aug 27. 1901. Feb. 25. Nov 4. 1902. Feb. 17. Dec. 29. 1903. April 26. Aug. 30. 1904. March 27. Nov. 13. 1906. Nov. 23. 1909. Jan. 4.11. 1910. July 18. 1911. May 7. June 4. 1912." "12 GA"
Down near the beginning of the barrel, "FULL" is stamped there. "300" is stamped on the bottom of the barrel. "MNS" is also seen near the 300 stamp.
I will put up pictures soon. Thank you.0 -
Not withstanding the markings, the workmanship doesn't look like it was made in GB to me. It appears to me to be the product of either Belgium or a very skilled local South Asian gunsmith.
Some of the guns that come out of Darra in Pakistan come to mind. Perhaps it was originally made in Belgium but the decoration and markings were added locally.
If you go over to You Tube and do a search for Darra Pakistan they have a very interesting video showing haw the have fabricated guns for hundreds of years.0 -
Remove the barrels and look for proofmarks on underside of breech end. 0 -
I seriously doubt it was made in England in 1898. Stamped letting looks like "homemade".
It appears to have fluid steel barrels, {not Damascus or twist steel} I bet it was "made" for the tourist trade, hence those markings...more value, easier importation as an "antique". Proof marks will tell a lot. Post all markings on the water table. Bob0 -
quote:Originally posted by babun
I seriously doubt it was made in England in 1898. Stamped letting looks like "homemade".
It appears to have fluid steel barrels, {not Damascus or twist steel} I bet it was "made" for the tourist trade, hence those markings...more value, easier importation as an "antique". Proof marks will tell a lot. Post all markings on the water table. Bob
I agree. Very poor quality for something from the UK or anywhere else. I'm thinking Turkey or Pakistan.0 -
I don't believe this is of English or Belguim manufacture....Have you pulled the Barrels and checked the Water Table under the Breech for Proofs or and other Marks? 0 -
I appreciate all the feed back from everyone. I'm pretty sure that it's Pakistani as well, since it's just on the other side of the border from where I am. But I thought I would ask. I don't remember any proof markings under the barrels, and I would check, except the gun is at home in America 9,250 miles away from where I am right now. I had some pictures of the gun on my computer and just wanted to see if anyone might be able to give me some info on it. Thanks for the posts. Anyone have any clue on value? I'm keeping it as a trophy, but I am curious. Thanks again 0 -
No more than $100 as a wall hanger. If you paid less you did alright. I also think Pakistan, Turkish work is usually better. 0
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