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Arisaka help please!

ATHOMSON
I need help identifying this Arisaka. This is all I have at this point other than he says it is a 6mm. He wants $150.00 for it.

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  • fordsix
    it is a jap 6.5 that has been heavily customized
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  • Grasshopper
    Well, stating the obvious,,it has no collector value now. Look at the ammo he has fired in it,,,to see what the caliber REALLY is..Is that a Weaver period scope with the tv lens? for a shooter,,its worth 150.with the scope and any ammo he has .imo..
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  • ATHOMSON
    quote:Originally posted by tommyjoe
    A lot of the 6.5 Jap. have been rechambered to 6.5x55 Swed.
    Tom


    I know, but 6mm would have to be rebarreled and not simply rechambered.

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  • Hawk Carse
    I think nambu has it.
    Can the owner show the ammunition he shoots in it?
    It might still be 6.5 Jap.
    It might have been rechambered 6.5x.257 Roberts, an easy conversion and taking standard brass necked up.
    I guess it could physically be 6.5x55 but that was itself an odd foreign caliber when this gun was likely worked over.

    The little lever added to the bolt cap safety is an interesting touch. And that is a long long bolt handle to clear the scope.
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  • navc130
    You have a Type 38 rifle originally 6.5 Jap caliber. Looking at the chamber area of the barrel, it looks like the original barrel to me.
    If there is a sharp, small step there rather than a smooth contour it is the original barrel with a 6.5 mm bore. As advised, it would be wise to see exactly what the seller is shooting in the gun. 6.5 Jap ammo is available but expensive - $45+ box from Norma. If it is not the original chambering you would most likely have to reload for it. Value: you could not buy a Jap rifle and sporterize it (with a scope) for $150 today. It looks like decent workmanship to me. Be advised the Jap Arisaka is a strong, reliable and accurate rifle, but does not have the desireable features of the Mauser 98.
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  • SoreShoulder
    That looks like nice work. However you just have to find out more about the caliber. It could be any one of a variety of 6mms or it could be the service 6.5 caliber or a variety of rechamberings which were applied to them because the Japanese cases were hard to get at times and can't easily be made.

    Get him to tell you the caliber and make sure the barrel's not shot out.

    Arisakas were the strongest of the military bolt actions. It could have been rebarreled to some other caliber.

    Find out how he got the stock to take the recoil of the action. A type 38 or 99 would have had metal tangs protruding from the action on the top and bottom of the pistol grip similar to a 92 or 94 winchester or 94 or 95 marlin. They have been cut off and were partially responsible for transmitting the recoil from action to stock. The 38 had no other recoil lug; the 99 had one just behind where barrel meets receiver and there could be a hidden recoil surface inside the stock. If it's a 38 it could slowly crush the stock with every shot, I don't know. Find out how the rifle was modified to take the recoil because neither the tangs nor the bolt that passed through the stock just under the front scope mount can be seen.

    Thing is, it looks like very nice work but if the stock isn't taking the recoil properly it could lead to steadily declining accuracy, and that sort of thing is prone to estimation because I think even a pretty good gunsmith might guesstimate as to how much recoil-absorbing surface a stock needs.
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  • tsr1965
    It would be nice to get a couple more pictures of that, that are well lit, and better detail. It looks like pretty decent workmanship from a distance. I would say it is worth the $150.00, but it would be nice to know what it is chambered in.

    Best
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  • ATHOMSON
    I heard back from him and the barrel is stamped .264. I am not familiar with this. Any help is much appreciated.

    AT
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  • SoreShoulder
    It could mean 264 winchester, and the Arisaka is supposed to be plenty strong enough for magnum calibers, or it could just be the size of the bore in thousandths of an inch, which was stamped on the barrel before they cut the chamber for a specific round.

    It does look like a sporting barrel to my eye but I am not too familiar with Arisakas.

    The 264 Winchester had a reputation as a barrel burner so the barrel could be worn out. You just gotta find out more about the condition of the barrel and the caliber because it may require expensive ammo which was poorly suited for whatever you wanted to use it for, and it may require a new barrel because the 264 wore barrels out quickly, which would more than double the cost.
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