S&W question REDEUX
OK, sooo I was able to look at the pistol I inquired about yesterday. It is a revolver (which after your comments, I figured it would be)
it has the rounded front blade and was chambered 45c. Now, after the chambering designation, it has proof marks inside of crowns. the first has "bv" inside the crown, the second has "something I can't make out without clean up", then "p") inside the crown, the third has "np" inside the crown.
under the chamber designation is stamped "ac" there are other symbols I would have to photograph to show you.
serial number 552xx and frame is stamped 9346
anyone know what model this is and any value?? he plans on flipping it for a profit as he is not into firearms at all.
thanks guys
it has the rounded front blade and was chambered 45c. Now, after the chambering designation, it has proof marks inside of crowns. the first has "bv" inside the crown, the second has "something I can't make out without clean up", then "p") inside the crown, the third has "np" inside the crown.
under the chamber designation is stamped "ac" there are other symbols I would have to photograph to show you.
serial number 552xx and frame is stamped 9346
anyone know what model this is and any value?? he plans on flipping it for a profit as he is not into firearms at all.
thanks guys
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From the serial number you have given, it's a .455 Mark II, 2nd Model, Hand Ejector. They were made between 1915 & 1917, for the Brits & Canadians. If it's a .45 LC it's been rechambered, as they were originally .455.
Here is a photo off the net of a 1917 U.S. Army .45 ACP revolver. The Brit revolver would appear the same except it has a 1" longer barrel and checkered grips.
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Rufe, the gun has three dates stamped on the barrel according to him, after some light clean-up with oil.
Oct 8, 1901
dec 17, 1901
feb 8, 1906
Do these mean anything? it looks like the one you have pictured, but the 45C is a factory S&W stamping.
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Some 1917's were made in what was considered special chamberings of the .44 Hand Ejector series. The serial number would put this one a .44 Hand Ejector 3RD. Model. Might be a overlaping 2nd model. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by JustC
Rufe, the gun has three dates stamped on the barrel according to him, after some light clean-up with oil.
Oct 8, 1901
dec 17, 1901
feb 8, 1906
Do these mean anything? it looks like the one you have pictured, but the 45C is a factory S&W stamping.
The Patent dates you have shown are the standard ones found on the Second Model .455 revolvers made for the Brits and Canadian's. With the Brit Proof Marks they were originally .455's not .45 LC. Unless somebody swapped out the barrel for a original one marked 45 C, I can't see how it could be original?0 -
Rufe, the cleaning of the surface reveals that the stamping on the barrel only says 45 and what I thought was a "C" following it appears to be a stamp of a campfire or something resembling one.
were the 455's you mentioned only stamped 45??0 -
quote:Originally posted by dcs shooters
Some 1917's were made in what was considered special chamberings of the .44 Hand Ejector series. The serial number would put this one a .44 Hand Ejector 3RD. Model. Might be a overlaping 2nd model.
EDIT: Look at page 115 in the Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson, under "The .44 Hand Ejector 2ND model"0 -
quote:Originally posted by JustC
Rufe, the cleaning of the surface reveals that the stamping on the barrel only says 45 and what I thought was a "C" following it appears to be a stamp of a campfire or something resembling one.
were the 455's you mentioned only stamped 45??
Appears to me that when it was rechambered for .45 LC, the barrel marking was reworked or changed whatever, to eliminate the 2nd 5 in .455.
This is what the original barrel marking should look like.0
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