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CHEVELLE427
I picked this up 30+ years ago and just now am getting into old military guns.

my question is i have not see/noticed any Arabic writing on any of the old turk guns, this one has some.

the 1942 turk k-kale does not have any

anybody read Arabic [;)]

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  • lmc8541
    if it cocks on opening it is a '93 turk made in germany and exported to Turkey as one of Mausers early/first major contracts. IIRC it is the model and where it was built in arabic and the year in arabic, but don't quote me on that.
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  • jonk
    All are pre 98 antiques. Originally chambered in 7.65X53, yours is (as most are) converted to 8X57. I baby mine and use handloads only, though they are strong enough to take standard 8mm. Worth about $125-$175.
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  • CHEVELLE427
    quote:Originally posted by jonk
    All are pre 98 antiques. Originally chambered in 7.65X53, yours is (as most are) converted to 8X57. I baby mine and use handloads only, though they are strong enough to take standard 8mm. Worth about $125-$175.


    i found 7.92 stamped on it years ago, think it is on the under side of the barrel.

    just shot this thing for the first time 2 years ago.
    i probable paid $50 or less for it way back when.

    just wondering about the writing on it , have not seen any with it
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  • CHEVELLE427
    quote:Originally posted by lmc8541
    if it cocks on opening it is a '93 turk made in germany and exported to Turkey as one of Mausers early/first major contracts. IIRC it is the model and where it was built in arabic and the year in arabic, but don't quote me on that.


    this one cocks when closing the bolt.

    my K-KALE Turk cocks when opening the bolt
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  • Mobuck
    The cock on close are based on pre 98 actions plus the cutout on the front ring for the 8mm pointy bullets is another clue. While the commercial USA made 8mm ammo should be OK in these, I would refrain from using some of the hot European commercial or WW2 military.
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  • TRAP55
    Use Romanian surplus, and stay away from Turk surplus, it's too hot to be shooting in that rifle on a regular basis.
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  • CHEVELLE427
    quote:Originally posted by TRAP55
    Use Romanian surplus, and stay away from Turk surplus, it's too hot to be shooting in that rifle on a regular basis.


    I RELOAD FOR BOTH

    i dont even think i have any surplus but this is good to know [8D]

    THANKS
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  • OleDuk
    427,
    The date on that rifle is 1312 in the Turkish language. It's the 4 character group forward of the star,saber(?) and diamond. The other stuff,between the stars, indicates it was made by Mauser Arms Co. Oberndorf a/Neckar.
    See Olson's book,"Mauser Bolt Rifles".

    OleDuk[:)][:)]
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  • CHEVELLE427
    FYI on what i have been told on this old mauser


    And it says...

    Sorry it took awhile. I spoke with several Arabic translators and they told me it was Turkish. I then took the pictures with me over to a Turkish market and they had trouble with much of it, saying it was part Arabic and part Ottoman and part Turkish. I then found a translater that speaks/reads all of these. He confirmed the bits I got from the Turkish men, and finished the rest.

    Jim Keenan was spot on.

    So here's what the rifle says.

    On the top of the receiver:
    -TC = Turkish Republic
    -ASFA = the company name that produced or imported the rifle
    -ANK on both sides of the moon/star crest = Ankara, the capital of Turkey
    -The moon/star crest = the Turkish flag/symbol

    On the side of the receiver:
    It is read from right to left.
    -The first symbol is a "o" and is either a "5" or an "H". The translator believes it's a "5" but isn't sure. Neither makes sense.
    -The next block of 4 symbols says "Shilah" which means "Mauser"
    -The next block of 2 symbols means "Rifle"
    -The next block of 4 symbols is the name of company "Fabrikasy". Possibly the producer or importer.
    -The star is just a symbol, he's not sure why
    -The long sqiggly line is "date/year made"
    -The Islamic date is 1312. However you must convert it to the Georgian calendar at this website. http://www.sizes.com/time/cal_islam.htm. As best I can figure it converts to 1894/1895.

    Hope this helps and gives you more enjoyment of your rifle!


    THE STAR I HAVE BEEN TOLD IS JUST WHAT THEY LIKE TO PUT ON THINGS
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