1894 Winchester 30/30. . .opinions?
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=193984573
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Gentlemen,
Thanks for the information. I've notified the seller that there is some question about the date of manufacture and urged him to take down the auction pending confirmation.
He's a good guy; I've actually bought three guns from him before on Gunbroker and picked them up in person from his store in MA.
If there is more followup here, I'll post it.
Edit #2, responding to below
quote:Spider7115
He can't end the auction early without selling it to the current high bidder. Maybe GB support can help but the bidder is gonna be pissed if it's cancelled!
The bidder really shouldn't be angry about an early-ended auction if it turns out that the gun he was bidding on was misrepresented as an antique. As you can imagine, that could cause no end of serious legal problems down the road should the buyer later try to take the NON-antique gun into a gun-restrictive jurisdiction, transfer it to another state, send it in the mail, etc.
In this particular case, I'm pretty sure the current high bidder won't be the slightest bit angry if the auction is ended early. . .since its me!
As a side issue, I've been the "victim" of an early ended auction where I was the high bidder. . I "won" the auction, but when I contacted the seller to pay, he claimed he just found out the gun in question was stolen, and had to end the auction to turn it over to police. I don't know if his story was true or not (it probably was), but since it was clear I wasn't going to end up with the gun whether it was or wasn't, I just let it go.
Edit #3
Isn't it nice when responsible adults handle things? The seller just updated the auction:
quote:[Information added 10/9/2010 11:01:05 PM]
Per my conversation with Bert Hartman this 1894 was made Jun 19 1901. It will have to be shipped to a C&R or FFL
Thanks, Bert.
EDIT:
Gentlemen,
Thanks for the information. I've notified the seller that there is some question about the date of manufacture and urged him to take down the auction pending confirmation.
He's a good guy; I've actually bought three guns from him before on Gunbroker and picked them up in person from his store in MA.
If there is more followup here, I'll post it.
Edit #2, responding to below
quote:Spider7115
He can't end the auction early without selling it to the current high bidder. Maybe GB support can help but the bidder is gonna be pissed if it's cancelled!
The bidder really shouldn't be angry about an early-ended auction if it turns out that the gun he was bidding on was misrepresented as an antique. As you can imagine, that could cause no end of serious legal problems down the road should the buyer later try to take the NON-antique gun into a gun-restrictive jurisdiction, transfer it to another state, send it in the mail, etc.
In this particular case, I'm pretty sure the current high bidder won't be the slightest bit angry if the auction is ended early. . .since its me!
As a side issue, I've been the "victim" of an early ended auction where I was the high bidder. . I "won" the auction, but when I contacted the seller to pay, he claimed he just found out the gun in question was stolen, and had to end the auction to turn it over to police. I don't know if his story was true or not (it probably was), but since it was clear I wasn't going to end up with the gun whether it was or wasn't, I just let it go.
Edit #3
Isn't it nice when responsible adults handle things? The seller just updated the auction:
quote:[Information added 10/9/2010 11:01:05 PM]
Per my conversation with Bert Hartman this 1894 was made Jun 19 1901. It will have to be shipped to a C&R or FFL
Thanks, Bert.
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Great deer rifle but seems to me, it's priced for a collector. I'm not sure how interested the collectors would be with the original owners social security number engraved on the receiver... Sure is a great rifle[:D]. Sure is expensive.[B)] 0 -
BertH is the guy you want, and I suggest you e-mail him if you have not, he is most helpful. I don't think the sling loops are factory and the ss number on the receiver certainly detract from the value, I would not go that price, but I am not an expert. 0 -
Very nice:
George N. Anagnoston 15 Mar 1915 25 Oct 2002 Canton, Norfolk, Massachusetts
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What Spider said.
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It will be interesting to see how the current high bidder reacts to the change. Oh, so you're the lucky guy! [:D][;)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by kimi
Very nice:
George N. Anagnoston 15 Mar 1915 25 Oct 2002 Canton, Norfolk, Massachusetts
Well, that confirms it as an Eastern carbine! [:D]
Actually, if I'm reading Bert's numbers correctly, it was manufactured in 1901, not 1897.0 -
June 19th, 1901 to be exact.
The front barrel band is installed backwards... indicating the gun has been taken apart by someone not overly familiar with Winchesters.0 -
quote:Originally posted by beantownshootah
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=193984573
EDIT:
Gentlemen,
Thanks for the information. I've notified the seller that there is some question about the date of manufacture and urged him to take down the auction pending confirmation.
He's a good guy; I've actually bought three guns from him before on Gunbroker and picked them up in person from his store in MA.
If there is more followup here, I'll post it.
He can't end the auction early without selling it to the current high bidder. Maybe GB support can help but the bidder is gonna be pissed if it's cancelled!
EDIT: I see that the seller updated the manufacture date and FFL/C&R requirement. I think that was a better idea than canceling the auction altogether as maybe the bidder didn't care if it was antique or not. Heck, if he lives in New Jersey, it would have to go to an FFL anyway. Good luck to your friend!0 -
The seller (Richard) contacted me personally, and we enjoyed a lengthy phone conversation this evening. Richard is a class act fellow, and he was genuinely interested in learning about the Polishing Room Serialization Records. I sent him an e-copy of the page that contains the serial number on that Carbine. 0 -
I have no interest in this,,,but Bert and Spider are two class acts here that contribute so much here and makes this place such a great place to "learn" about firearms,,,I am in my 50s and still learning every day here.[:I] 0
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