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Wolf.
I'm going to purchase some inexpensive 7.62 x 39 ammo for my SKS and I am looking for the latest opinions. I've heard so many negative stories about Tula ammo, that I am reluctant to consider it. However, I don't know who actually makes the stuff I AM considering, because I have no idea if all this ammo are actually separate brands, as opposed to simply lines of ammo made at the same arsenal or factory in Russia.

Anyway, right now, unless someone suggests other alternatives, it looks like a toss-up between the Bear brand and the Wolf brand ammo.

I would like to know your general opinion and experience, to the extent you can say of the two brands, "Wolf" and "Bear", the various "lines" within each brand and other brands that I haven't considered, relating to:
== Positive characteristics
== Failures to Fire
== Feeding and Ejecting
== Accuracy
== Leaving behind gun-jamming residue
== Leaving behind accuracy-degrading residue
== Other negative characteristics

Thanks,
Wolf.
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  • babun
    Watch for this seller's auctions. Good stuff. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=187484560

    Bob
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  • dbain99
    I have only used new Wolf in my Norinco SKS w/30rd mags. I usually have 1 stovepipe per 3 mags. I do not belive it is ammo related. As far as accuracy goes it shoots a 3 to 4 inch group prone/bi-pod at a 100 yards, which is what I expect. I usually shoot a round every two seconds. Never measured a group or tried to shoot a tight slow fire group.
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  • ni hao
    I have only used the Wolf brand of ammo. I have fired thousands of these rounds, fmj, hp, and sp. without ever having any problems. They are not as accurate as USA made 7.62x39 but the Ak and SKS are not the most accurate of rifles. They sure are fun to shoot! Wish I could shoot them more often than I do.
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  • TRAP55
    All the brand names you mentioned, are made by Tula ammo. They just recently started to use the name Tula.
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  • drobs
    I've had good luck with Golden Tiger. Seems more consitant when compared to Woof.
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  • beantownshootah
    Without getting into too much detail (that I don't know anyway) there are a 3-4 plants in Russia that make the steel case ammo.

    Vympel makes the 7.62x39 ammo sold as Golden Tiger. This is lacquer coated and often times a bit cheaper than the others.

    Wolf polymer coated black box ammo is made in Tula, but branded with its own label. I think the "Tulammo" is identical, just sold by the plant directly in a different box.
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    The Wolf "military classic" lacquer coated ammo is made in Ulyanovsk, and I understand its essentially the same ammo that used to be standard Russian military issue (now they use 5.45x39). There is ammo branded Uly that comes in black and white boxes, which I'd assume is the same thing.
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    The different "Bear" ammos (brown bear, silver bear, etc) are made by Barnaul, and I think many consider this to be the best of the various Russian plants (though not by a whole lot).

    As to accuracy and reliability, I think you'd have to try that in your own guns, but I think you'll find that most of these are fairly reliable, though not tremendously accurate.

    If you are looking at cheap shooting ammo, you might also consider the Yugoslavian military surplus ammo, which costs roughly the same per round as the Russian steel case right now. This is very good stuff, both hot and accurate. . .but its corrosive, and is the primary reason why so many of the Yugo SKS guns are unreliable. Their gas systems may be partly corroded from use of this ammo during actual combat in the 80s Balkans wars.
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