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Winchester 61 Routledge Bore

ktknka
I have been looking for a Winchester 61 Routledge Bore for some time now. I have not been able to locate one and have not seen any on gunborker for sale.

Any idea how a guy could find one for sale? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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  • fordsix
    on the rare side...just keep looking...remington made more of the routledge and smooth bore guns
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  • Bert H.
    There were fewer than a hundred Routledge Bore Model 61s made, and my bet is that all of them are locked up in collections. I sincerely doubt that you will see one listed on GunBroker. Your best bet is to watch the well known auction houses, but it may take quite some time before one comes up for sale.
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  • hoodster
    Several variations of the 61 smoothbore were made. According to C.H. KEY, only 77 of the original "Routledge" were made with the triangular loading port by Fred Routledge. VERY RARE

    Winchester made their own version called the Winchester "Counter-Bore" which varied in the depth and width of the counter-bore.

    Winchester also made a "non-counter-bore" smoothbore later in production.

    There also exists a "smoothbore" carbine model 61 of which it is estimated that less than 10 exist. (Page 50 of CH Key book)

    Throw in the matted receiver vs. grooved receiver, slide handle differences, etc., you can have many variations. All of them VERY COLLECTIBLE.

    It has taken me years to assemble at least one of each including a 99% version of the carbine.
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  • scottsdaleping
    do you have the serial #'s of the 77 routledge guns? thanks
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  • Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by scottsdaleping
    do you have the serial #'s of the 77 routledge guns? thanks


    Scott,

    It is my understanding that all of them are in the 45,000 - 48,000 serial number range. The following list are confirmed Routledge bore Model 61 rifles;

    45010
    45022
    45052
    45053
    45064
    45066
    45078
    45112
    45132
    45138
    45143
    45189
    45318
    45676
    462XX
    46264
    46398
    46600
    46627
    46797
    46942
    46978
    47000
    47006
    47055
    47243
    47266
    47554
    47727
    47856
    48000
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  • kimi
    Much more rare is the non-counterbore smoothbore 61. I've only seen one in person, and a cousin of mine owned it back about 1954.

    Good luck with your search for the 61 Routledge bore.
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  • kimi
    quote:Originally posted by hoodster
    Several variations of the 61 smoothbore were made. According to C.H. KEY, only 77 of the original "Routledge" were made with the triangular loading port by Fred Routledge. VERY RARE

    Winchester made their own version called the Winchester "Counter-Bore" which varied in the depth and width of the counter-bore.

    Winchester also made a "non-counter-bore" smoothbore later in production.

    There also exists a "smoothbore" carbine model 61 of which it is estimated that less than 10 exist. (Page 50 of CH Key book)

    Throw in the matted receiver vs. grooved receiver, slide handle differences, etc., you can have many variations. All of them VERY COLLECTIBLE.

    It has taken me years to assemble at least one of each including a 99% version of the carbine.


    Nice!
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  • scottsdaleping
    hi, thanks for the quick reply and great info on this model. what do you know about gun # 45066? its here in fgo,nd.thanks again
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  • hoodster
    My list of known Model 61 Routledge bore .22 rifles is now up to 38 serial numbers. That is a great representation based on an alleged 77 total production. Constantly looking for new serial #'s to add to the list.

    I own four of them and also have collected the Remington Model 121 Routledge bores which came in 4 variations.
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  • hoodster
    quote:Originally posted by hoodster
    My list of known Model 61 Routledge bore .22 rifles is now up to 38 serial numbers. That is a great representation based on an alleged 77 total production. Constantly looking for new serial #'s to add to the list.

    I own four of them and also have collected the Remington Model 121 Routledge bores which came in 4 variations.


    Now up to 44 Routledge bore Winchester model 61's!
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