NRA betrays us again
The NRA has officially endorsed liberal Democrat Scott Murphy for the 20th Congressional District in Upstate New York. Murphy was an outspoken proponent of "Obamacare" and supports major cuts to Medicare and tax hikes.
His opponent, Chris Gibson, is a conservative Republican gun owner, and a retired "Bird Colonel" following a 24-year career in the US Army including 4 combat tours to Iraq.
Among his military decorations are 2 Legions of Merit, 4 Bronze Star Medals, the Purple Heart, the Combat Infantryman's Badge with Star, the Master Parachutist Badge and the Ranger Tab. For their actions in Mosul in support of the first national election in the new Iraq, his Battalion Task Force earned the Valorous Unit Award. For their actions in Tal Afar during the 2nd and 3rd national elections in Iraq his Battalion and the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment were recognized for excellence by President George W. Bush and earned a 2nd Valorous Unit Award.
I will never send the NRA another dime. [:(!]
His opponent, Chris Gibson, is a conservative Republican gun owner, and a retired "Bird Colonel" following a 24-year career in the US Army including 4 combat tours to Iraq.
Among his military decorations are 2 Legions of Merit, 4 Bronze Star Medals, the Purple Heart, the Combat Infantryman's Badge with Star, the Master Parachutist Badge and the Ranger Tab. For their actions in Mosul in support of the first national election in the new Iraq, his Battalion Task Force earned the Valorous Unit Award. For their actions in Tal Afar during the 2nd and 3rd national elections in Iraq his Battalion and the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment were recognized for excellence by President George W. Bush and earned a 2nd Valorous Unit Award.
I will never send the NRA another dime. [:(!]
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quote:Originally posted by ruger41
I have read that thread a few times. I had been a NRA supporter for well over 20 years before I even knew about a Gunbroker forum. I swallowed the NRA Koolaid hook, line and sinker all that time. After reading that thread and others it was like waking up from the Matrix. Just because a corporate entity says they are your last best hope doesn't necessarily mean that they are. I have even shown that thread to other NRA supporters on other gun forums and the die hards(especially the Fudd's) still blindly follow the NRA and are adamant that none of the other gun rights organizations are worth a plug nickel just because they "don't have the 4 million gun owners supporting them."
Well I will tell you something about that--if those 4 million supporters ever woke up from their slumber and actually looked at what the top brass at the NRA is doing they would lose so many members it would make your head spin. The majority most likely doesn't bother to look so long as their copy of the American Rifleman shows up on time and they get the trinkets like the mesh cap or a pocket knife made in China of course. Until LaPierre & the rest of the compromisers at the top are gone, the NRA will not see one dime from me.
The man gets it.[;)]
You NRA diehards out there; listen up.....
Wanna know why some of us come on here and choose to tell the truth about the NRA? Wanna know why we 'beat the dead horse', and relentlessly hammer away with the same message time after time after time?
Read the first few sentences of ruger41s post;
That's why.0 -
quote:Originally posted by ruger41
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by Doc
The NRA ignores all issues except 2nd Amd. People get mad at the NRA for backing pro-choice, tax and spend, or pro-Obama candidates but they don't care about all that. Only gun rights. Also, they tend to favor an incumbent over a challenger if both are pro-gun figuring you go with the guy already in office.
Apparently this incumbent has supported gun rights. Or has fooled the NRA into thinking he has.
Doc,
I recommend a reading of this thread. http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=451774
pickenup has compiled quite the expose on NRA endorsements and posted them in one of his replies to the thread, amongst much other pertinent info.
You may find it enlightening.
I have read that thread a few times. I had been a NRA supporter for well over 20 years before I even knew about a Gunbroker forum. I swallowed the NRA Koolaid hook, line and sinker all that time. After reading that thread and others it was like waking up from the Matrix. Just because a corporate entity says they are your last best hope doesn't necessarily mean that they are. I have even shown that thread to other NRA supporters on other gun forums and the die hards(especially the Fudd's) still blindly follow the NRA and are adamant that none of the other gun rights organizations are worth a plug nickel just because they "don't have the 4 million gun owners supporting them."
Well I will tell you something about that--if those 4 million supporters ever woke up from their slumber and actually looked at what the top brass at the NRA is doing they would lose so many members it would make your head spin. The majority most likely doesn't bother to look so long as their copy of the American Rifleman shows up on time and they get the trinkets like the mesh cap or a pocket knife made in China of course. Until LaPierre & the rest of the compromisers at the top are gone, the NRA will not see one dime from me.
A reasoned response, sir.
Too bad the '4 million' who remain are either ignorant (some of us are attempting to correct that condition), stupid, or simply slack-jawed, slope-headed, kool-aid drinking blind sycophants.[:)]0 -
Don't waste your breath debating them. Hang them as the traitors they are.
Those evil minded enemies who seek to steal our best means of defense merely pretend to be blind.
They know what they do...0 -
quote:Originally posted by Charles Johnson
The Fudd's you speak of lack something you possess--the chestnuts to admit they've been in the wrong.
You think?
I think it might be the inability to compute data. You know.... IQ.0 -
All these posts and Doc is the only one to attempt a rationalization or justification of NRA actions.
Where are all the toad-mouthed NRA zombies????0 -
496 how long did it take you to look up the word "SYCOPHANT?" You seem to have fallen in love with it. Keep squeking little ant. You will never get up to a roar but you may make it up to a grunt little feller. Poor little guy. No life at all except to get on an internet forum and scream and yell trying to get attention. Bless his little heart. I feel so sorry for him. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by lt496
All these posts and Doc is the only one to attempt a rationalization or justification of NRA actions.
Where are all the toad-mouthed NRA zombies????
There was one. No defense offered though. Go figure. He has the right to refute, he just doesn't have the ability.0 -
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
quote:Originally posted by lt496
All these posts and Doc is the only one to attempt a rationalization or justification of NRA actions.
Where are all the toad-mouthed NRA zombies????
There was one. No defense offered though. Go figure. He has the right to refute, he just doesn't have the ability.
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quote:Originally posted by Doc
The NRA ignores all issues except 2nd Amd. People get mad at the NRA for backing pro-choice, tax and spend, or pro-Obama candidates but they don't care about all that. Only gun rights. Also, they tend to favor an incumbent over a challenger if both are pro-gun figuring you go with the guy already in office.
Apparently this incumbent has supported gun rights. Or has fooled the NRA into thinking he has.
Its' much deeper then that. Just one expample is the NRA invlolvment in the Iowa bills mentioned in this thread. Look in to that one. There are many others. The door needs opened on this.
The NRA could be our best ally, the question is why do they choose not to be.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Rosie
496 how long did it take you to look up the word "SYCOPHANT?" You seem to have fallen in love with it. Keep squeking little ant. You will never get up to a roar but you may make it up to a grunt little feller. Poor little guy. No life at all except to get on an internet forum and scream and yell trying to get attention. Bless his little heart. I feel so sorry for him.
Gee-whiz, Rosie, that sure put me in my place, huh?[:)]
Now that you've shown another bout of duck, dodge, side-step, bob & weave, how about stepping up and telling us why you support the erosion of individual liberty.
As for the word 'sycophant' I use it in relation to you and the other NRA-zombies because it is a perfect fit.
I didn't define how slack-jaw, drooling, slope-headed, kool-aid drinking, blind adherent, fits you, since with every post you make, you are fleshing those descriptors out, all by yourself.
Carry on with my work, Rosie,or,you could quit while you are behind.[:)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by SCOUT5
The NRA could be our best ally, the question is why do they choose not to be.
No money in it.0 -
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
quote:Originally posted by SCOUT5
The NRA could be our best ally, the question is why do they choose not to be.
No money in it.
Bingo , but I think there is more also.0 -
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
quote:Originally posted by ruger41
....still blindly follow the NRA and are adamant that none of the other gun rights organizations are worth a plug nickel just because they "don't have the 4 million gun owners supporting them."
Maybe point out the 86 million gunowners who don't belong.
Now just what could the reason be? Oh yea, they are ALL lazy and expect trfaux to save their guns for them, uh-huh. It couldn't have anything to do with factual proven history of anti-gun NRA.
86 million gun owners not belonging pretty much makes them the gun equivilent of the Cadillac driving, food stamp spending welfare cases getting a free ride while others foot the bill, doncha think? [:0] But instead of sitting on the stoop all day drinking Cisco or OE 800 and griping about how tough life is they're hanging out at the gun store beeatching about NRA.
Wait a sec, they're not drinking OE 800 - it's just whine ....
Gotta go - NRA and CRPA are in court now fighting with the city of San Francisco over another one of their crappy little bans. Must be a different NRA though, right?0 -
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
quote:Originally posted by ruger41
....still blindly follow the NRA and are adamant that none of the other gun rights organizations are worth a plug nickel just because they "don't have the 4 million gun owners supporting them."
Maybe point out the 86 million gunowners who don't belong.
Now just what could the reason be? Oh yea, they are ALL lazy and expect trfaux to save their guns for them, uh-huh. It couldn't have anything to do with factual proven history of anti-gun NRA.
86 million gun owners not belonging pretty much makes them the gun equivilent of the Cadillac driving, food stamp spending welfare cases getting a free ride while others foot the bill, doncha think? [:0] But instead of sitting on the stoop all day drinking Cisco or OE 800 and griping about how tough life is they're hanging out at the gun store beeatching about NRA.
Wait a sec, they're not drinking OE 800 - it's just whine ....
Gotta go - NRA and CRPA are in court now fighting with the city of San Francisco over another one of their crappy little bans. Must be a different NRA though, right?
A Kali 'gun-owner' viewing the RKBA as the NRA does and viewing the NRA as an Amendment II defender, what a shocker.[:0]0 -
How much freaking evidence is needed?!!!
It's like trying to convince OJ"s jury.
Frankly they warrant the same degree of respect.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Charles Johnson
How much freaking evidence is needed?!!!
It's like trying to convince OJ"s jury.
Frankly they warrant the same degree of respect.
That's pretty much where I find myself when dealing with this crowd.
Unbelievable and a perfect illustration of how easily manipulated many are...
Any questions as to how the Republic has been destroyed?0 -
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
quote:Originally posted by ruger41
....still blindly follow the NRA and are adamant that none of the other gun rights organizations are worth a plug nickel just because they "don't have the 4 million gun owners supporting them."
Maybe point out the 86 million gunowners who don't belong.
Now just what could the reason be? Oh yea, they are ALL lazy and expect trfaux to save their guns for them, uh-huh. It couldn't have anything to do with factual proven history of anti-gun NRA.
86 million gun owners not belonging pretty much makes them the gun equivilent of the Cadillac driving, food stamp spending welfare cases getting a free ride while others foot the bill, doncha think? [:0] But instead of sitting on the stoop all day drinking Cisco or OE 800 and griping about how tough life is they're hanging out at the gun store beeatching about NRA.
Wait a sec, they're not drinking OE 800 - it's just whine ....
Gotta go - NRA and CRPA are in court now fighting with the city of San Francisco over another one of their crappy little bans. Must be a different NRA though, right?
A Kali 'gun-owner' viewing the RKBA as the NRA does and viewing the NRA as an Amendment II defender, what a shocker.[:0]
So what does the parentheses mean - I'm not a gun owner? Then what are all those FALs, ARs, Springields and Robinsons doing in my gun room .... [8D] Maybe I'm not a "real" gun owner because I'm in CA, I guess I was one when I was growing up in New Hampshire, right? I was one when I got my first LTC when I was 18, when I got my UT non-res permit.
Nice try - back on the stoop for you - crack open another OE.[;)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
quote:Originally posted by ruger41
....still blindly follow the NRA and are adamant that none of the other gun rights organizations are worth a plug nickel just because they "don't have the 4 million gun owners supporting them."
Maybe point out the 86 million gunowners who don't belong.
Now just what could the reason be? Oh yea, they are ALL lazy and expect trfaux to save their guns for them, uh-huh. It couldn't have anything to do with factual proven history of anti-gun NRA.
86 million gun owners not belonging pretty much makes them the gun equivilent of the Cadillac driving, food stamp spending welfare cases getting a free ride while others foot the bill, doncha think? [:0] But instead of sitting on the stoop all day drinking Cisco or OE 800 and griping about how tough life is they're hanging out at the gun store beeatching about NRA.
Wait a sec, they're not drinking OE 800 - it's just whine ....
Gotta go - NRA and CRPA are in court now fighting with the city of San Francisco over another one of their crappy little bans. Must be a different NRA though, right?
A Kali 'gun-owner' viewing the RKBA as the NRA does and viewing the NRA as an Amendment II defender, what a shocker.[:0]
So what does the parentheses mean - I'm not a gun owner? Then what are all those FALs, ARs, Springields and Robinsons doing in my gun room .... [8D] Maybe I'm not a "real" gun owner because I'm in CA, I guess I was one when I was growing up in New Hampshire, right? I was one when I got my first LTC when I was 18, when I got my UT non-res permit.
Nice try - back on the stoop for you - crack open another OE.[;)]
Missed it, by a country-mile....Much like you seemingly have difficulty equating NRA actions and your support of them, with the intent of Amendment II.
Oh my.[:0]0 -
quote:Originally posted by dano
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by Rosie
496 how long did it take you to look up the word "SYCOPHANT?" You seem to have fallen in love with it. Keep squeking little ant. You will never get up to a roar but you may make it up to a grunt little feller. Poor little guy. No life at all except to get on an internet forum and scream and yell trying to get attention. Bless his little heart. I feel so sorry for him.
Gee-whiz, Rosie, that sure put me in my place, huh?[:)]
Now that you've shown another bout of duck, dodge, side-step, bob & weave, how about stepping up and telling us why you support the erosion of individual liberty.
As for the word 'sycophant' I use it in relation to you and the other NRA-zombies because it is a perfect fit.
I didn't define how slack-jaw, drooling, slope-headed, kool-aid drinking, blind adherent, fits you, since with every post you make, you are fleshing those descriptors out, all by yourself.
Carry on with my work, Rosie,or,you could quit while you are behind.[:)]
Do you even know what sycophant means.....I mean before you looked it up in the dictionary, and decided to give it a shot? [:X]
Nope, sure didn't.
I did, however, know what a predatory government, leg-humping jack-booted thug was. I learned that from reading your views.[:)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by dano
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by dano
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by Rosie
496 how long did it take you to look up the word "SYCOPHANT?" You seem to have fallen in love with it. Keep squeking little ant. You will never get up to a roar but you may make it up to a grunt little feller. Poor little guy. No life at all except to get on an internet forum and scream and yell trying to get attention. Bless his little heart. I feel so sorry for him.
Gee-whiz, Rosie, that sure put me in my place, huh?[:)]
Now that you've shown another bout of duck, dodge, side-step, bob & weave, how about stepping up and telling us why you support the erosion of individual liberty.
As for the word 'sycophant' I use it in relation to you and the other NRA-zombies because it is a perfect fit.
I didn't define how slack-jaw, drooling, slope-headed, kool-aid drinking, blind adherent, fits you, since with every post you make, you are fleshing those descriptors out, all by yourself.
Carry on with my work, Rosie,or,you could quit while you are behind.[:)]
Do you even know what sycophant means.....I mean before you looked it up in the dictionary, and decided to give it a shot? [:X]
Nope, sure didn't.
I did, however, know what a predatory government, leg-humping jack-booted thug was. I learned that from reading your views.[:)]
When it comes to living life, you are either predator or prey.
At least that was how the US Army explained it to me. It worked out well, and I decided to follow thru with it. [^]
But....think of me as a kind, caring and compassionate, predator. [;)]
I don't look at YOU as predatory, dano. Far from it.
I look at the government whos leg you hump, as predatory. You are more of a 'I vus yust following orders' type, to me.0 -
quote:Last time I checked, ALL LE agencies, depts. etc., work for some form of a government, be it county, state or Federal.
Well, dano, the difference is that some embrace the predatory controlling, anti-liberty enforcement nature of government, and some of us resist and reject it from within.
You and I have laid out our respective positions on this point, long ago.[;)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
quote:Originally posted by ruger41
....still blindly follow the NRA and are adamant that none of the other gun rights organizations are worth a plug nickel just because they "don't have the 4 million gun owners supporting them."
Maybe point out the 86 million gunowners who don't belong.
Now just what could the reason be? Oh yea, they are ALL lazy and expect trfaux to save their guns for them, uh-huh. It couldn't have anything to do with factual proven history of anti-gun NRA.
86 million gun owners not belonging pretty much makes them the gun equivilent of the Cadillac driving, food stamp spending welfare cases getting a free ride while others foot the bill, doncha think? [:0] But instead of sitting on the stoop all day drinking Cisco or OE 800 and griping about how tough life is they're hanging out at the gun store beeatching about NRA.
Wait a sec, they're not drinking OE 800 - it's just whine ....
Gotta go - NRA and CRPA are in court now fighting with the city of San Francisco over another one of their crappy little bans. Must be a different NRA though, right?
No fletcher, it's the same NRA that will work out a deal to eliminate the ban, as long as everybody takes an NRA course, for a fee. See how with the beast, one hand washes the other, all the while convincing 4.5% of gunowners that they are defending their "gunrights". Since it is estimated that 35% of the population has a mental disability (you) I'd say 95.5 percent of gunowners is considerably above the average norm. Kudos to all of gunowners for being some of the most intelligent people in the world. Then, to those who claim to be gunowners, "Knock it off! Your blowing our chance at 100!"[:(!]0 -
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by Charles Johnson
How much freaking evidence is needed?!!!
It's like trying to convince OJ"s jury.
Frankly they warrant the same degree of respect.
That's pretty much where I find myself when dealing with this crowd.
Unbelievable and a perfect illustration of how easily manipulated many are...
Any questions as to how the Republic has been destroyed?
None.[:(!] Witness 130 million morons voting for more of the SOS in potus '08.0 -
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by Charles Johnson
How much freaking evidence is needed?!!!
It's like trying to convince OJ"s jury.
Frankly they warrant the same degree of respect.
That's pretty much where I find myself when dealing with this crowd.
Unbelievable and a perfect illustration of how easily manipulated many are...
Any questions as to how the Republic has been destroyed?
None.[:(!] Witness 130 million morons voting for more of the SOS in potus '08.
and will again in 2012[V]0 -
quote:Originally posted by dano
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Last time I checked, ALL LE agencies, depts. etc., work for some form of a government, be it county, state or Federal.
Well, dano, the difference is that some embrace the predatory controlling, anti-liberty enforcement nature of government, and some of us resist and reject it from within.
You and I have laid out our respective positions on this point, long ago.[;)]
Point is....you still work for a government. [;)]
Is the gravy thick enough for ya? [:p]
That provides no cover at all for what you've advocated previously. [;)]
I am on the right side of things. That is all.0 -
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
quote:Originally posted by ruger41
....still blindly follow the NRA and are adamant that none of the other gun rights organizations are worth a plug nickel just because they "don't have the 4 million gun owners supporting them."
Maybe point out the 86 million gunowners who don't belong.
Now just what could the reason be? Oh yea, they are ALL lazy and expect trfaux to save their guns for them, uh-huh. It couldn't have anything to do with factual proven history of anti-gun NRA.
86 million gun owners not belonging pretty much makes them the gun equivilent of the Cadillac driving, food stamp spending welfare cases getting a free ride while others foot the bill, doncha think? [:0] But instead of sitting on the stoop all day drinking Cisco or OE 800 and griping about how tough life is they're hanging out at the gun store beeatching about NRA.
Wait a sec, they're not drinking OE 800 - it's just whine ....
Gotta go - NRA and CRPA are in court now fighting with the city of San Francisco over another one of their crappy little bans. Must be a different NRA though, right?
A Kali 'gun-owner' viewing the RKBA as the NRA does and viewing the NRA as an Amendment II defender, what a shocker.[:0]
So what does the parentheses mean - I'm not a gun owner? Then what are all those FALs, ARs, Springields and Robinsons doing in my gun room .... [8D] Maybe I'm not a "real" gun owner because I'm in CA, I guess I was one when I was growing up in New Hampshire, right? I was one when I got my first LTC when I was 18, when I got my UT non-res permit.
Nice try - back on the stoop for you - crack open another OE.[;)]
Missed it, by a country-mile....Much like you seemingly have difficulty equating NRA actions and your support of them, with the intent of Amendment II.
Oh my.[:0]
As in "Why do I need government OK to exercise a God given right?" correct?0 -
quote:Originally posted by dano
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by dano
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Last time I checked, ALL LE agencies, depts. etc., work for some form of a government, be it county, state or Federal.
Well, dano, the difference is that some embrace the predatory controlling, anti-liberty enforcement nature of government, and some of us resist and reject it from within.
You and I have laid out our respective positions on this point, long ago.[;)]
Point is....you still work for a government. [;)]
Is the gravy thick enough for ya? [:p]
That provides no cover at all for what you've advocated previously. [;)]
I am on the right side of things. That is all.
Bottom line, you're ridin the ole gravy train for all it's worth.
You can try as hard as you like, to describe it as something other than what it is, but at the end of the day, the conductor is gonna come by and ask for your ticket. [;)]
You are either on the train, or you're not.
I'm thinkin you are soooooooo on the train. [:D]
An absolutely perfect illustration of the abject failure of one with a pro-collectivist government 'Law Enforcement' mentality to even comprehend the 'Peace Officer' ethic and the proper role of police in society.
Thank you, sir, for your contribution to making this massive distinction.[;)][:)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
quote:Originally posted by ruger41
....still blindly follow the NRA and are adamant that none of the other gun rights organizations are worth a plug nickel just because they "don't have the 4 million gun owners supporting them."
Maybe point out the 86 million gunowners who don't belong.
Now just what could the reason be? Oh yea, they are ALL lazy and expect trfaux to save their guns for them, uh-huh. It couldn't have anything to do with factual proven history of anti-gun NRA.
86 million gun owners not belonging pretty much makes them the gun equivilent of the Cadillac driving, food stamp spending welfare cases getting a free ride while others foot the bill, doncha think? [:0] But instead of sitting on the stoop all day drinking Cisco or OE 800 and griping about how tough life is they're hanging out at the gun store beeatching about NRA.
Wait a sec, they're not drinking OE 800 - it's just whine ....
Gotta go - NRA and CRPA are in court now fighting with the city of San Francisco over another one of their crappy little bans. Must be a different NRA though, right?
No fletcher, it's the same NRA that will work out a deal to eliminate the ban, as long as everybody takes an NRA course, for a fee. See how with the beast, one hand washes the other, all the while convincing 4.5% of gunowners that they are defending their "gunrights". Since it is estimated that 35% of the population has a mental disability (you) I'd say 95.5 percent of gunowners is considerably above the average norm. Kudos to all of gunowners for being some of the most intelligent people in the world. Then, to those who claim to be gunowners, "Knock it off! Your blowing our chance at 100!"[:(!]
You really think all those 86 million are doing anything to promote the 2nd and they're not in the NRA because of an informed decision instead of apathy, laziness or "I don't wanna spend $25.00 a year? Not hardly.
How many gun owners voted for Obama - lots. How many vote "on other issues" - lots. Try posting this - "I vote on gun rights only" and see how much disagreement and ridicule pops up.
If you think there are 86 million gun owners out there who believe as you do AND think the NRA sucks, get 2% of them together - start your own group, kick the NRA's fanny.0 -
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
If you think there are 86 million gun owners out there who believe as you do AND think the NRA sucks, get 2% of them together - start your own group, kick the NRA's fanny.
fletch, just sayin', 95% of gunowners do not join a worthelss and even detrimental oragnization let's say even 10% of those do it because they know the truth. That's still twice as many as those who drink the sad kool aid they are giving out.0 -
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
If you think there are 86 million gun owners out there who believe as you do AND think the NRA sucks, get 2% of them together - start your own group, kick the NRA's fanny.
fletch, just sayin', 95% of gunowners do not join a worthelss and even detrimental oragnization let's say even 10% of those do it because they know the truth. That's still twice as many as those who drink the sad kool aid they are giving out.
What I see with most of those gun owners is apathy. When SF voted on a handgun ban a few years back I bugged the hell out of gun owners to vote, some I talked to afterwards didn't even bother.
But I could be wrong and if so, someone should be able to get some of that 10% and start their own group - that would scare the hell out of NRA and make them change their tune, wouldn't it?
If people have a better idea they should sell it. I'd to see NRA with their 4 million and another organization with their 5 million or 2 million. Mostly I'd like to see 90 million people saying "don't touch my guns" like the old folks say "don't touch social security" and getting the same results.0
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