Remington 700ml
does anyone own a remington 700 muzzle loader? is it a good gun? any dislikes on the gun?
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In need of a 209 conversion kit. Im told this will help w/ this poorly designed gun to fire correctly when it gets cold. 0 -
I own 3 of them. 1 is in 45 cal., 1 is a 50 cal. youth and the other is a 50 cal. stainless. I love the 700ml. I would put it against any other muzzleloader on the market for accuracy, and it would hold it's own. The only downside is they are more tedious to clean than other break open type muzzleloaders, but that doesn't bother me any. I think for ruggedness and longevity, they will easily outlast most other muzzleloaders, and last as long as the rest. Another plus is they don't cost much now because everybody wants the break open type that are more user friendly. I suppose some people would call them dinosaurs, and that's o.k. too. My dinosaurs have killed a boatload of deer, and they'll do it again this year and 20 years from now the same. 0 -
I have to say, that I have tried just about every type of muzzle loader out there, and once had a Remington 700 ML in the stable. I am glad it broke out of the barn and run away!
As been said, it was very tedious to clean, along with the Knight disc rifle, they were about the worst. With the open breech, they were prone to take on water, or rain, and sometimes not fire.
I have found out, over the years, that the serious hunting MODERN in-lines, all say Thompson Center Arms on them. There is no better rifle, or warranty(if needed). The accuracy from the Black Diamond, Omega, Encore, and Triumph is nothing short of legendary. All of the rifles that have the Speed Breech XT in them are fast and fun to clean.
I would stay away from the 700 ML, if I didn't own one.
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The 700 ML is the muzzle loader version of the 700 bolt gun. The 700 ML feels like a 700 centerfire, takes scope rings like a centerfire and cleans like a centerfire. The only difference in cleaning (besides being a charcol burner) is having to unscrew the breech plug with the tool supplied or a socket.
I shoot a 54 cal. and was lucky enough to draw an Antelope tag a couple of years ago. I killed a nice buck at a ranged 165 yards. They are a great rifle!
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I have a .50 and a .54 both stainless. The .50 is the non-magnum early version with the shorter barrel and didn't have the ability to shoot 209 primers. Early on I had firing issues with this gun and it wasn't the primers, it just didn't have enough spring pressure. I sent it back to Remington 3 different times and they kept saying there was nothing wrong with it yet with 4 different boxes of musket caps I couldn't get 1 out of 3 to fire on the first shot. I finally bought a 209 conversion out of Canada and put it in. The spring was MUUUUUCCCCCHHHHH stronger and I haven't had a single malfunction since. I hunt with it in Kansas during muzzleloader which didn't allow (until this year) a scope so I put removable scope mounts on it so I could have a scope during regular rifle season or not to remain legal.
They come with a little plastic plug you put on the bolt in inclimate weather and it helps keep it dry, but it makes it a lot dirtier to shoot. I personally think they are a LOT easier to clean than traditional muzzleloaders thanks to a removable breach, but not hard at all. There may be others out there but with these you have traditional Remington accuracy. You can get a trigger job on these and they are quite a pleasure to shoot. I have taken over 10 deer with this one (around 50 with my CVA sidelock).
My .54 one is also stainless and it is the magnum version and already came prepped for all 3 primer types and it is completely stock except a trigger job. I haven't shot it as much as my .50 but it too seems like a nice gun. They are really quite cheap now as a lot of people like to have the latest and greatest so you can often find them for a few hundred bucks. I wouldn't pay the $450 or so now like they were when they are new, but at the current going price they are a good deal.0
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