Pa. bill pushes to end gun permit 'loophole'
Pa. bill pushes to end gun permit 'loophole'
By Tom Barnes, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
HARRISBURG -- A Democratic state legislator from southeastern Pennsylvania is trying to close the "Florida gun loophole."
Rep. Bryan Lentz of Delaware County, who is running for a Congressional seat in suburban Philadelphia, wants to make it harder for Pennsylvanians who have been denied a license to carry' firearms in this state to simply get one from another state, in particular, Florida.
Currently, state law generally requires a person to be licensed by the state of Pennsylvania in order to carry a concealed weapon.
But there is this exception allowing firearms for "any person who possesses a valid and lawfully issued license or permit to carry a firearm, which has been issued under the laws of another state, regardless of whether a reciprocity agreement exists between the Commonwealth (of Pennsylania) and the state."
Mr. Lentz is upset, saying this exception allows Pennsylvania residents to legally carry a firearm in Pennsylvania "even when they have been denied, or had revoked, a 'license to carry' by Pennsylvania authorities." He called this situation a "loophole.''
He cited a case where a man was arrested in a rental car at a Pennsylvania airport with a loaded AK-47 in the car.
"The man had a Pa. 'license to carry', which was subsequently revoked," Mr. Lentz said. "While his case was pending, he obtained a Florida 'license to carry' by mail. He was subsequently stopped by Philadelphia police in a car with another loaded firearm. There was no arrest, however -- even though his Pa. 'license to carry' had been revoked -- because he now had a Florida license to carry.''
He has a bill before the House Judiciary Committee to stop Pennsylvania residents from getting their license to carry from another state. The committee may vote on the Lentz bill on Tuesday, depending on how talks with the National Rifle Association go.
"This legislation is needed to ensure that local authorities retain control over the (firearms) permit process and that Pennsylvania residents who are granted a license to carry have met the standards of our state and not those of another state, whose standards may be less than ours," Mr. Lentz said.
In November, he will face Republican Pat Meehan for the Congressional seat now held by U.S. Rep. Joe Sestak.
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By Tom Barnes, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
HARRISBURG -- A Democratic state legislator from southeastern Pennsylvania is trying to close the "Florida gun loophole."
Rep. Bryan Lentz of Delaware County, who is running for a Congressional seat in suburban Philadelphia, wants to make it harder for Pennsylvanians who have been denied a license to carry' firearms in this state to simply get one from another state, in particular, Florida.
Currently, state law generally requires a person to be licensed by the state of Pennsylvania in order to carry a concealed weapon.
But there is this exception allowing firearms for "any person who possesses a valid and lawfully issued license or permit to carry a firearm, which has been issued under the laws of another state, regardless of whether a reciprocity agreement exists between the Commonwealth (of Pennsylania) and the state."
Mr. Lentz is upset, saying this exception allows Pennsylvania residents to legally carry a firearm in Pennsylvania "even when they have been denied, or had revoked, a 'license to carry' by Pennsylvania authorities." He called this situation a "loophole.''
He cited a case where a man was arrested in a rental car at a Pennsylvania airport with a loaded AK-47 in the car.
"The man had a Pa. 'license to carry', which was subsequently revoked," Mr. Lentz said. "While his case was pending, he obtained a Florida 'license to carry' by mail. He was subsequently stopped by Philadelphia police in a car with another loaded firearm. There was no arrest, however -- even though his Pa. 'license to carry' had been revoked -- because he now had a Florida license to carry.''
He has a bill before the House Judiciary Committee to stop Pennsylvania residents from getting their license to carry from another state. The committee may vote on the Lentz bill on Tuesday, depending on how talks with the National Rifle Association go.
"This legislation is needed to ensure that local authorities retain control over the (firearms) permit process and that Pennsylvania residents who are granted a license to carry have met the standards of our state and not those of another state, whose standards may be less than ours," Mr. Lentz said.
In November, he will face Republican Pat Meehan for the Congressional seat now held by U.S. Rep. Joe Sestak.
Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10165/1065547-100.stm#ixzz10O1jKjnf
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Interesting post. Should be worth watching it play out. The subject evidently liked having a loaded weapon and was creative about how to keep his right. 0 -
This whole state carry license circus is utter nonsense, if you get a state carry license in one state then it should be good in every state in the country. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by StoBtruppen
This whole state carry license circus is utter nonsense, if you get a state carry license in one state then it should be good in every state in the country.
Incorrect, you shouldn't have to have ANY license to CC. Bearing arms is a right, not a privilege.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Beeramid
quote:Originally posted by StoBtruppen
This whole state carry license circus is utter nonsense, if you get a state carry license in one state then it should be good in every state in the country.
Incorrect, you shouldn't have to have ANY license to CC. Bearing arms is a right, not a privilege.
Yes, I am quite aware of that and which is the point if you read in between the lines 'IF' is the key word here along with a wee bit of sarcasm don't ya know, your singing to the choir.
Unfortunately in the real world though if you want to carry you are required by non-constitutional forces that happen to be in power at the moment to get a CCL.
However never said it was accepted or approved of and far from it, but short of having to shoot it out to do so have to comply with it for now until Constitutional Rights are restored or CW2.0
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