Found OLD guns need Info???
Hi. I found these guns in a old attic and would like to get some information about them and a approx value for each (I will end up selling them anyways). I Know NOTHING about firearms.I did get some information on the 1st one (it's a colt blackpowder patented stamped 1850 and one sold for around 1100.00)
but have no info on any of the others... ANY knowledge will be appreciated.
gun long 1:
gun long 2:
gun flat:
gun silver:
but have no info on any of the others... ANY knowledge will be appreciated.
gun long 1:
gun long 2:
gun flat:
gun silver:
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Gun long 1,2 is a Colt 1860 Army .44 revolver or possibly a reproduction of same. It appears rather neglected and rusty but complete and not beat up.
Gun flat mystifies me. It is a single shot of a type I am not famiiar with.
Gun silver is a Smith and Wesson .32 Double Action out of the 1880s or 1890s.
You should show more information on serial numbers and other markings so somebody here can make a guess as to resale value.
RHMC: The pictured c&b has a rebated cylinder and the long steep butt of an 1860.0 -
the single shot pistol is of Hopkins & Allen manufacture. it is called H&A New Model Target in 22 rimfire caliber. it was manufactured using the H&A "safety police" type of barrel latch and was manufactured between 1906 and the end of production in about 1915. there are some rumors to the effect marlin built a few of them after they took over the H&A factory after wwI.
while this model is not as sought after as the S&W and H&R single shot models they are considered collectible. the 31th edition of the blue book list them at 100%=$565 down to 60%=$250.0 -
The single shot, tip-up pistol is a Hopkins & Allen.
Similar to one on the auction side:http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=1915097780 -
Size of grip makes me think the upper one may be a 1861 Navy (may be just the camera angle). The design is the same as the 1860 Army but a tad smaller. Some dimensions will tell for sure. If the bore size is a little smaller than 3/8" it is a Navy. If it is more like 7/16" it is the Army. It is worthwhile to know for sure because the Navy is a much more scarce gun than the Army. If you can give the barrel length and gun length overall, we can tell for sure. 0 -
I'm goint to say the Colt is a 1860 model. The rebated cylinder, the steel backstrap and the location of the loading lever latch are what I'm basing my call on.
I don't think the 1861's had a steel backstrap.
I would expect the Colt to sell in the $900- $1000 range. Would like to see the barrel markings, and a serial #. I assume you're going to list these on Gunbroker? I'll bid on the Colt if you do.0 -
Here is a Update on the guns:
colt Information:
On the top of the barrell it says "address col sam(looks like a small underlined L next to sam)colt new-york u.s. America- "
under the chamber it says colt patent. On the chamber(the thing that holds the bullets) itself it says US Patent no. 5017. under that it reads Pat Sept 10th 1850
on the "gold" trigger plate it has the number 850XX and the same number is stamped twice on the barrel area on the bottom side.There is also a R stamped on the gold trigger area. The same 850XX number is stamped on a plate on the bottom of the handle.
there is also a R stamped under the hammer.
The length of the gun from the end of the barrel to the handle is 11 inches long...
Flat Gun:
on the bottom of the barrel the number 94X is stamped and the same # is stamped behind the trigger. When you open the gun (unfolds to load ammo) the number 76XX is engraved there (not stamped). There is a logo like a gold coin on the top of the handle (both sides) with a design on it but can't make out what the design is? The top of the barrel reads "Hopkins &Allen arms co. Norwich , ct U.S.A
The handle of the gun has a piece broken off on the inside. The gun measures 8 inches long from barrel to the start of the handle.
Silver gun:
Has the number 673XX stamped inside the bullet chamber area. The same number is stamped on the bottom of the handle. Has a small circle on the top of the handle that looks like a fancy letters of S&W. The top of the barrel reads " Smith & wesson springfield mass.USA pat'd Jan 24 and there is 2 other numbers that I can't make out looks like 65 but not sure, the next line reads July 11 and then the same unreadable number and then Aug and the same # again, Reissue July 25 73 May 11 80 Jan 3 82. The gun measures 6 inches from the end of the barrel to the handle top.0 -
Here is a site with pics of the different kinds of colt(Link is provided by a member from another forum place)
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/8385/gunlong3.jpg
After viewing those pics it looks to match up to the 1860 Army. I say this because it has the notchs by the hammer and the rest of the guns seem to have a bolt near the bend on the bottom of the barrel and mine does not have the bolt there so I'm pretty sure its the 1860 one.
I didn't even realize there was images on the cylinder, I thought they were scratches but after closer inspection It is Images of sails possibly???
Now that were "pretty positive" the year and such does anyone have a rough estimate on the value of it???? Thank You everyone...0 -
The Colt serial # says it was made in 1863. It is a Model 1860 though. Condition is so imporatnt on these guns, prices can range from $100 for a dug relic, up to and above $10,000 for extemely nice examples. I still think $1000 would be top end for this one. 0
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