30 06 bolt
Thank you all for your input.I do realize that I would need to take my frfle and new bolt to a gunsmith.Need the bolt first.Maybe a rough price from one of you.I know Remington is going to be pricy, maybe I can get a new rifle cheaper, but this one has only had a dozen or so shells through it.
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Have a Remington Mod 700 BDL 30 06. Need a complete bolt assy. Any help? 0 -
I saw one on the auction side of Gunbroker.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=1905533420 -
Thanks alot
Jim0 -
Best you get a bolt from the Mf'r that hasn't been fit to a rifle before. All bolts are fit to the receiver prior to release for retail sale. And fitting removes metal.
In regard to your rifle, too much may have been removed from the recoil lugs, etc on a used bolt during original fit to the original rifle causing excessive headspace right out of the box for your setup.
It's probably okay...probably. I'd get a fresh bolt, however. But, hey..that's just me! Joe0 -
givette,
While any one of your statements may have been true or is true now, in general, they are all incorrect so far as Remington M700s are concerned now and for the last many years.
"All bolts are fit to the receiver prior to release for retail sale."
Remington bolts have never been fitted to a receiver prior to sale. If the bolt was part of a factory barreled action then the headspace is dependent on that particular bolt but it was not 'fitted'.
"And fitting removes metal."
This is true, even though the amount is usually trivial. In cases where the amount is significant in terms of headspace, the barrel would be set back and the chamber cut for the proper headspace. This is in terms of being after the original sale of the factory rifle and a secondary bolt or replacement bolt.
I have purchased large quantities of Remington M700 actions and bolts from Remington. The actions came separate from the bolts with NO serial number affixed for matching them to a particular receiver.
The only time a bolt can be construed as 'matching' a receiver is when both the receiver and bolt have been assembled together with a chambered barrel for sale.
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But, but, but, don't you remember the story in history class about Eli Whitney and the interchangeable gun parts he demonstrated to get a U.S. gov gun contract? Can't modern gun manufacturers match that standard with interchangeable gun parts?? LOL [:D] 0 -
andrewsw16,
Eli Whitney was not dealing with bolt action rifles. [:D]
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"Eli Whitney was not dealing with bolt action rifles."..............something about cotton and gin....the original 'fuzzy navel'? 0 -
NN, yes, 'fitting' was the wrong thing to say. But can I ask you to follow-up on a few items? (in blue, below)
quote:Originally posted by nononsense
givette,
While any one of your statements may have been true or is true now, in general, they are all incorrect so far as Remington M700s are concerned now and for the last many years.
"All bolts are fit to the receiver prior to release for retail sale."
Remington bolts have never been fitted to a receiver prior to sale. If the bolt was part of a factory barreled action then the headspace is dependent on that particular bolt but it was not 'fitted'.
Understood. Fitting is the wrong word. But you state 'Headspace is dependent on that particular bolt'. Doesn't that imply that another bolt may not allow for the proper headspace?
"And fitting removes metal."
This is true, even though the amount is usually trivial. In cases where the amount is significant in terms of headspace, the barrel would be set back and the chamber cut for the proper headspace. This is in terms of being after the original sale of the factory rifle and a secondary bolt or replacement bolt.
OP is in this predicament. He's requesting info on a 'secondary/replacement' bolt.
I have purchased large quantities of Remington M700 actions and bolts from Remington. The actions came separate from the bolts with NO serial number affixed for matching them to a particular receiver.
Then you performed the finishing work yourself? Isn't that the 'fitting' aspect? I told the OP in private E-mail to have a qualified G/S perform essentially what you have done!
The only time a bolt can be construed as 'matching' a receiver is when both the receiver and bolt have been assembled together with a chambered barrel for sale.
OP doesn't have the original bolt. What he is asking for is a bolt that hasn't been assembled toghether with a chambered barreled action.
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Thanks for taking the time. Joe0 -
Eli Whitney was after having a functioning piece of farm equipment. That is far from being a minute of angle rifle application.... 0 -
givette,
"I told the OP in private E-mail to have a qualified G/S perform essentially what you have done!"
While I encourage members to use the e-mail system for many forms of communication outside of the forums restrictions, it does preclude our ability to know what has been communicated until told. We don't have ESP or at least I don't anyway...
This is one of those times when I wish I had a classroom and visual aids.
Jim Sharp wants a bolt to replace the one that is no longer available for his barreled action.
Calling Remington is always an option, until you get the bill for services rendered.
Finding another bolt just as he has done with this post is always an option also.
Headspace is defined as the dimension between the boltface and the detail of the cartridge which stops forward movement. This can be a rim, case mouth or a shoulder datum. In our discussion, it's the shoulder.
The bolt is considered to be a given. The adjustments that we make to bolts is usually what is termed to be 'blueprinting' or 'accurizing' since what we're doing is making the boltface and lugs perpendicular to the bore line and parallel to each other.
Not all rifles require this but many factory rifles benefit from this option. The exceptions can be endless since we see factory rifles with good or even fine accuracy 'right out of the box'. Sometimes the moon and stars are in alignment and everything went right at the factory.
The adjustment for headspace is done with the thread tenon length and the chamber. So in this situation, the gunsmith would need to check the headspace with gauges. The difference between a normal 'GO'/NOGO' set let's say for discussion is 0.004". If the bolt allows for this range then the rifle should be good to go if it meets all the other safety factor checks. If it falls outside this range then the dimension needs adjustment by machining the chamber or thread tenon or maybe both to achieve alignment.
Whether another bolt will fall in the range of headspace or not requires a check, it's as simple as that. If it's in range, good. If it's outside that range, bad. It needs a gunsmith. If you want a consistent shooting rifle, now is the time to have it blueprinted or accurized.
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