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Followup (.50-110 Information Sought)

givette
I said I would post my followup on the prior post, but it has been locked. Anyway, I contacted Turnbull, and here is their response below (direct C&P from the correspondence).
Item in blue is their answer..item in green is my initial question. Best, Joe

Joe,



Thank you for the inquiry.



The answer to your question is yes. We convert USRAC & Browning Model 1886 rifles to 50-110 all the time. Base cost for the conversion with a new barrel is $1,550.



Peter Koppmann
Shop Manager
Turnbull Mfg. Co.
6680 Route 5 & 20
P.O. Box 471
Bloomfield , New York 14469
Phone: (585) 657-6338
Fax: (585) 657-7743
www.turnbullmfg.com
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Winchester 1886 Caliber Change

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Greetings: Givette from Gunbroker, here. My question..Would it be feasable to use an 1886 Winchester modern replica as the donor rifle (I'll get any brand you recommend), and have it re-worked to 50-110? If so, what would be the approx. cost to contract with you good folks to accomplish such a conversion? Thanks, Joe
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  • Starr44
    Hi, This question caught my eye, I've looked into the original "86 twist rate and found it was 1 in 60". my question is out of curiosity but you may find it of more value. What should a modern version be? The originals were used with black powder first, which would foul a barrel quickly, and later, smokeless but the same twist. I wonder, were they accurate with that twist or just easier to clean? Will that be an inferior accuracy twist rate? 1 in 60" is a good round ball twist. Just curious
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  • XXCross
    The original rifles chambered in the 50-110 used a bullet that was little more than a round ball....the 1 in 60 twist rate was acceptable. If you can use a barrel with a 1 in 38 twist you should have all the bases covered. (damn fat finger, skinny keys and no proof reader!)
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  • Hawk Carse
    It will take a little research and I don't have the materials handy but...

    The one you hear about is the .50-110-300 which is an express type load with light for caliber bullet and slow rifling.
    The same chamber but with a faster twist was sold as the .50-100-450 which makes more sense.
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  • Bert H.
    The rifling twist rate for the 50-110 Express was 1:54. The 50-95 W.C.F. twist rate was 1:60.

    As Hawk Carse mentioned, the 50-100-450 was the same case and chamber, but with a faster 1:36 twist rate to accomodate the 450-grain bullet.

    Powder fowling was not a problem with the .507 bore diameter.
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  • CapnMidnight
    As Ken said, the original bullet was little more than a round ball. My traditional 50cal muzzle loader has a Green River round ball barrel, it has a 1 in 60 twist. The heavier bullets required a faster twist.
    W.D.
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  • v35
    For what it's worth; years ago I had an 86 Winchester 45-90-300 that consistantly outshot three mint Trapdoors, all using Blue Label 45-70-450 U.S Army black powder loads, at 100 yards.
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