Win 1894 Takedown adjustment
Has anyone ever had any luck adjusting the takedown on a Winchester 1894? I tried to adjust the three screws in the receiver extension, but they really don't seem to do anything. They just feel like they bottom out. Maybe its just seized over the last 100 years. I am keeping this nice old 94 in my safe for a relative and it's very sloppy at the takedown connection point. I'd probably consider buying it from him if I could get it tightened up, Any thoughts??
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Are you able to turn any of the small screws? If not, try a small drop of Kroil oil on each screw head, let it sit for awhile and try again. Remember these screws have probably not moved for decades so a little persuasion might be needed, just be careful not to damage the slot. Also, the way these screws work is by deforming the face of the receiver frame causing a slight bulge, dimple, in the metal thus creating a tighter fit. You only want to deform the metal a tiny bit and not exert so much pressure on the screw that it'll push completely through.
Hope this is helpful,
Marty0 -
Yes, I have had the screws in and out, and they actually move freely. I have turned them in as tight as I can without causing damage. Thank you for the information on how this is supposed to work. I really didn't understand how the three screws could tighten it up. The screws appear to be completely bottomed out, ( the heads are flush with the face ) So, is it actually hollow inside? 0 -
You need to use a proper fitting hollow ground screwdriver tip, and then continue to turn the screw until it deforms the face of the take down extension ring. It requires quite a bit of turning force to accomplish the task, and make sure that you apply an equal amount of turn to each of the three screws. 0 -
You guys are the best. Thanks a lot Bert, and Martin for the insight. I continued to turn on the screws and as you both stated, the face began to deform and finally, after lots of persuasion and nervousness on my part, it did tighten up. I'm surprised that someone at Winchester thought far enough ahead to allow for this compensation for wear. The two peices are not perfectly true due to the positioning of the screws, but is barely noticable and I doubt it affects the function or accuracy of the rifle. Best of all, I think I'll try to purchase this gun now. Bert, you may be interested in this one for your database. It's a 1894, dom 1898 in 25-35 with a double set trigger, 3 leaf express rear sight, and obviously a takedown. Let me know if you want more info on it, and thanks again for the help. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by pdog72
Bert, you may be interested in this one for your database. It's a 1894, dom 1898 in 25-35 with a double set trigger, 3 leaf express rear sight, and obviously a takedown. Let me know if you want more info on it, and thanks again for the help.
Serial number and the date received in the warehouse (Cody letter) if you can.0 -
23008 and 4-9-1898 0 -
quote:Originally posted by pdog72
23008 and 4-9-1898
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pdog72 - your welcome and I'm glad to help as many have helped me, and continue to need help since I incorrectly wrote "face of the receiver frame", instead of "take down extension ring" which Bert correctly used as the name of the rifle's part which these screws interact upon. Thanks again Bert!
pdog72 - sounds like a very nice rifle, can you post some pics?
Marty[B)]0 -
I will get some pics taken, and see if I can get them on here. I think its a good find. Thanks again, you guys made my day. 0 -
Marty,
Here are some pics of the 25-35 1894. Does anyone know how much to add to the value for the double set trigger or the 3 leaf express sight? All I see for add-ons is the caliber and takedown in Bluebook. I'd like to know what this rifle is really worth.
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The double-set trigger is approximately a 20% premium. The 3-leaf express sight does not add any value to the rifle, as it was a very commonly ordered sight. 0
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