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  • quickmajik
    noveske
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  • fastcarsgofast
    6 in one half a dozen in the other.

    Seriously, it depends on what you want.
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  • Nwcid
    Matter of opinion.


    What is the best car on the market?
    What is the best truck?
    What is the best phone?
    What is the best coffee?

    All subject things. There are 3.5 to stay away from Hesse/Vulcan/Blackthorn for sure not sure on CAI AR's but they are hit and miss on everything else.
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  • sandwarrior
    Bigboo01,

    I'd have to agree that Noveske is the biggest name right now in custom AR's. They do a lot of the little things that make it a tighter, smoother, and more accurate rifle. Maybe even a little better balanced.

    However, for half the price I was shooting an Alexander Arms 6.5 Grendel at ranges well past what any Noveske can shoot. My Rock River A2 with a scope on top was shooting .5 MOA out to 300 yds.

    My point in the second statement is that rifle system is modular and you can get an outstanding deal if you build it yourself for about 1/4 of the price of a Noveske. It may be a little rough to start with until all the working parts get broken in. And, a little less accurate than you like until the barrel gets broken in. But, will meet all your shooting requirements.

    My opinion:

    If you want all out accuracy in the rifle then get a long (20" or more) barrel with at least a 1-8" twist in .223. Get a good barrel not a mil-surp or cheapie. Any of the 8 Wisconsin cut rifled barrel makers are good. Shilen makes them as does Hart. I think Pac-nors are good, some say a little on the soft side. Point is go with a good barrel.

    If you want all out velocity and still get decent accuracy go with the same length requirement but get the 5.56 chamber. And, 1-9" twist. It has more leade than the .223 and allows the round to be loaded to higher pressure.

    If you want it to be handy yet still accurate, you will need to not hope for so much velocity. Get a good barrel again but this time 16" is the best for that. You can go shorter if you want to pay the $200 SBR tax (if allowable in your state).

    You can configure each part of the rifle the way you like it.

    -good luck
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  • armilite
    quote:fastcarsgofast
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    USA
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    Posted - 09/05/2010 : 6:39:46 PM Show Profile Email Poster Reply with Quote
    6 in one half a dozen in the other.

    Seriously, it depends on what you want.



    And you don't need to spend the money on a Cadillac when a Chevy will do just as well. There is no such thing as best, you won't find 2 people who agree on the best pizza or fish fry. The same thing applies with AR-15's as well. All you will get here are opinions and they are all different.
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  • beantownshootah
    quote:Originally posted by Bigboo01
    What is the best ar15 on the market?


    Well, technically speaking, I think Colt is the only manufacturer with an "AR-15" on the market. (All the others are clones).

    The Colt happens to be pretty good, too.

    "Best". . .that's subjective and depends largely on what you want to do with it. The "best" for you probably isn't going to be the best for me, and vice versa.
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  • rsnyder55
    FN 416
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  • Txs
    The reason you're not getting a satisfactory answer is because your question is way too broad.

    First off, what is the rifle's intended use (LE duty, defense, target shooting, casual plinking, etc.) and how many rounds will be put through it?

    The requirements of each role vary greatly.
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  • Don McManus
    IMO, the best buy on the market today is the Stag gas piston for around $ 1,000.00.

    The LWRC piston rifle is a top of the line model for more than twice that, and you can find reliable impingement rifles in the $ 700.00 and slightly less range.

    There is no 'best' AR-15 on the market. There is one that is best for you for a particular use. The fun is finding that best fit, as the options are extensive.
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  • quickmajik
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    IMO, the best buy on the market today is the Stag gas piston for around $ 1,000.00.

    The LWRC piston rifle is a top of the line model for more than twice that, and you can find reliable impingement rifles in the $ 700.00 and slightly less range.

    There is no 'best' AR-15 on the market. There is one that is best for you for a particular use. The fun is finding that best fit, as the options are extensive.





    I kinda have to disagree with the statement that there is no best. There is. each rifle can be the best it can be. but it is subjective to the needs of the shooter. Any rifle can be made into the best it can be, but chances are out of the box it will be far from the best, it will just be survicable, maybe.

    You can make a 800.00 rifle very reliable and accurate, but out of the box it wont be all it could be. If the barrel extension and bolt were mapped and matched for accuracy and reliability, the rear of the bolt, feed ramps and chamber is polished, the inside of the carrier is polished and treated with a molecular anti-carbon compound, the barrel torqed to 85+ pounds, a new trigger ect it would be a much more reliable rifle.

    there are certian things you can not fix on an 800 dollar rifle if they were done wrong at the factory, like if the bore is off center or wonders, or the chrome lineing is shabbily done, or the front sight or muzzle device is over torqed to the point that they cause variances inside the bore ECt.
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