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Jap ww2 rifles

kidthatsirish
Ok, so my neighbor got a rifle for cheap at auction and im trying to help him figure out what it is. This is what I can tell from my own knowledge....

Its shorter than the standard Model 99. It has a similiar bolt assembly design. It does not have the flip up rear sites that the early model 99s have, instead this one has a Peep type sight just infront of the chamber with a single triangle post type on the barrel tip. There are no guards for the front sight. The rifle has the traditional two stack stock design with what appears to be an alumminum butt plate that may be custom made. the bolt handle is the oval type seen on the early types, not the cylinder type. No mum markings or scratches near there at all. Im pretty sure its a chrome lined barrel and bore as most of the finish has wore off the outer gun but bore remains nice and shiny. same style safety as the model 99. serial number is in the 13xxx range. i think the markings on it are for the toyo factory. It does have the grove on the left side of the reciever for the dust cover which is now gone. It does have a bayonet stud, but no place for a cleaning rod. the handguards have no finger groves. The sling attachement is horizontal on the serial number side of the rifle.

im not sure if its chambered for 7.7 yet or one of the other jap rounds. It does have stripper clip groves. I know pics would help but i dont have my camera on me. Any help?
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  • fordsix
    sounds like jap 99 last ditch
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  • rufe-snow
    What fordsix said. This is the best pic of one, Icould find on the net.


    IMG_4356.jpg
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  • kidthatsirish
    similiar, but the bolt is like the early style M99's....although I suppose it could be from a different rifle (I know lots of the bolts got swapped when GI's brought them back).

    My friend dosnt have any plans to shoot it, its a mantle gun right now.
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  • Grasshopper
    I bet the bolt numbers don't match the receiver numbers. Like Ford said,,99% chance it is a last ditch,,,with the features you stated...nambu
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  • Fatstrat
    Only problem is that a "Last Ditch" would be the same length as a standard T-99. However there were some 400 T-99 "carbines" made w/12.5" barrels.
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  • Emmett Dunham
    Make sure it is not a training rifle they will blow up if you try to shoot it.

    Emmett
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  • Grasshopper
    quote:Originally posted by Fatstrat
    Only problem is that a "Last Ditch" would be the same length as a standard T-99. However there were some 400 T-99 "carbines" made w/12.5" barrels.



    That would be a find[:)]...Pic would tell all/
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  • kidthatsirish
    quote:Originally posted by Emmett Dunham
    Make sure it is not a training rifle they will blow up if you try to shoot it.

    Emmett


    any suggestions on how one goes about determing if its a training rifle or not? I mean...it seems kinda odd that they would make what appears to be a chrome lined rifled barrel on a "training" rifle?
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  • p3skyking
    Immediately in front of the serial number you will see a tiny circular japanese stamp.
    With a loupe, describe the marking inside the circle. This is called a Kana or series marking and will identify the series and maker. Training rifles did not have this stamp.
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  • Fatstrat
    Niether training rifles or Last Ditch rifles would have a chrome lined barrel. And I've never heard of any T-99 that had an original aluminium buttplate. Sounds like a Frankenstien to me. The best way to ID a trainer is to see if there is rifling in the barrel. Trainers are smooth bore.
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