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7.63 mauser ?? or

whitty58
Can anyone tell me how to rell the difference in 7.63 mauser and 7.62 tokarev? I have 900 rds. in striiper fmj.

thanks,
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  • rufe-snow
    If it's the 8 round strippers, it's 7.62 Toke ammo, for the Czech Model 24 & 25 submachine guns. It's hot loaded and the primer is very stout, to stand up to the heavy impact of the submachine gun bolts with fixed firing pins. Definitely wouldn't be shooting it in a Broomhandle Mauser.
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  • v35
    Eight round stripper clips fit what appear to be double magazine pouches
    which are part of Tokarev holster sets.
    Odd that the pouches only accept these clips and not Tokarev magazines.
    I believe these eight round stripper clips and pouches were a carryover
    idea from the ten round stripper clips for the 1896 Mauser pistol predecessor.
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  • dsmc1
    Agreed that Tokarev ammo should not be fired in a broomhandle. But why assume that because it's in a tokarev stripper clip that it has to be Tokarev ammo, unless you are CERTAIN it came from the factory that way.

    Unfortunately there isn't a whole lot of size difference between the two. The Tokarev has a .330 neck diameter, while the Mauser is .332, according to the 8th edition of cartridges of the World, and .307 vs .308 bullet diameter respectively. Not enough difference to be certain which it is I would find a way to research the headstamps and be sure before trying it in a Broomhandle, if that was your plan.
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  • Spartacus
    Historically speaking, original commercial and government issue (military) Borchardt, Mauser, Soviet Tokarev, and Czech Tokarev cases were identical.

    For all these cartridges, the standard bullet weight was 85 grains, with 86 grains a close second. Bullet diameter was .308 inches.

    The loadings of Mauser, Soviet Tokarev, and Chinese Tokarev cartridges were identical. Borchardt cartridges were loaded to velocities about 6% lower. Czech Tokarev cartridges were loaded to velocites about 15% higher. Czech Tokarev cartridges fired in a Mauser would have muzzle velocites around 1575 ft/sec. For the Mauser pistol, this is nowhere near a proof load, but still a bit hotter than the gun was intended to handle on a regular basis.
    works for me. i shoot the newer tok ammo in a broomhandle w/o problem. i THINK the wartime czeck tok was significantly higher pressures than what's loaded today.
    in any case, the c96 was proofed to 30,000, so commercial loads from current manufacture can be used.
    the alledged problem with the c96 is the idea of the top assembly flying off backwards towards you face if the loads are too hot. unfortunately, there is no documentation of this ever happening with current commercial ammo OR wartime czeck ammo!
    if your c96 is in good shape, it can handle tokarev ammo. i've fluxed the bolt stop on mine. if no issues....i do have one c96 that shows some evidence of either a poor forging, or abuse. i don't shoot it with ANY ammo.
    just my 2c
    tom
    but i'm not willing to recommend you use it on a regular basis.


    tom
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  • gruntled
    The bolt stop on my C96 crystallized & shattered when I was using
    the 7,63 Mauser rounds that come in the 25 rd blue boxes.
    The pieces jambed the bolt (REALLY jambed it) so it did not come out of the gun. I am glad I was not using hotter rounds. I now have a stainless steel replacement bolt stop.
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