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Handy Gun 410

izzdad
I understand the Handy gun 410 IF registerable is worth $$ I have one from an estate collection and don't know the history. is there ANY way to trace it to see if it was registered in the past. I'd like to know if it has any value.
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  • rufe-snow
    The legalites regarding the various Handy Gun(s) have been discussed numerous times over the years in this forum. If you care to use the search function, you can find these older threads easily.
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  • mark christian
    Are you saying that you bought it from the estate without bothering to see if it was registered? Not the brightest of moves since even if it were legally registered you can't just go out and buy National Firearms Act weapons and then take it home with you. There is the little matter of BATFE paperwork involved. Contact your local BATFE field office and tell them about the gun and arrange to bring it (and you) down to the field office for a little chat. They will run the serial number and if it was registered then you'll have to give it back to the executor of the estate who can then transfer it to you after the paperwork has been completed. If it has not be registered you can hopefully just leave it at the BATFE office and they will let you walk out of the place without wearing hand cuffs.

    Good luck
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  • izzdad
    Nope didn't buy it, it was part of the estate of a deceased relative
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  • mark christian
    Saying that at the beginning saves a lot of speculation...But no one ever wants to tell the whole story in their first post, we always have to work for it. Bottom line: If it is not registered now it cannot be registered ever because the window for registrations closed at the end of November 1968 and it is locked tight. The executor of the estate, and no one else, must contact the BATFE to establish whether or not the gun is registered. If is registered and it is in a state where it is legal to own then it can be transferred. If it is not registered it is contraband and must be surrendered, although it may be possible for the ATF to allow the barrels to be sleeved to a legal length and removed from the NFA restrictions. This is done on a case by case basis and nothing is automatic about the ATF allowing for that to happen.
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  • Bill DeShivs
    It is my understanding that, without possession of a barrel, the Handy Gun is legal. Also, if the barrel were rifled, the gun is not subject to NFA regulation.
    If the frame was registered, you can legally own it, after going through some loopholes (the executor must do this).
    If the frame was not registered, and you don't possess a barrel, the gun is a shotgun. You can also build a short barreled shotgun out of it by paying the $200 tax to ATF. You could then find a barrel for it.
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  • texas gunplumber
    check ATF Curio & Relic list...some of these are listed there; and, under some conditions, can be owned
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  • mark christian
    quote:Originally posted by texas gunplumber
    check ATF Curio & Relic list...some of these are listed there; and, under some conditions, can be owned


    C&R or not, the firearm still needs to be registered and the point of the thread is an effort to determine whether or not that actually happen. It status as a Curio and Relic does not exempt it from registration.
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  • mdc
    quote:Originally posted by mark christian
    Saying that at the beginning saves a lot of speculation...But no one ever wants to tell the whole story in their first post, we always have to work for it. Bottom line: If it is not registered now it cannot be registered ever because the window for registrations closed at the end of November 1968 and it is locked tight. The executor of the estate, and no one else, must contact the BATFE to establish whether or not the gun is registered. If is registered and it is in a state where it is legal to own then it can be transferred. If it is not registered it is contraband and must be surrendered, although it may be possible for the ATF to allow the barrels to be sleeved to a legal length and removed from the NFA restrictions. This is done on a case by case basis and nothing is automatic about the ATF allowing for that to happen.


    Dear Mark,

    I just inherited 2 of these from my dads estate which were registered appropriately and I have original paperwork. As executor of his estate can I sell them? If so must I sell to a dealer.

    Thanks'
    Mike
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