winchester model 21
I'm trying to determine the manufacture date of a model 21 with a serial number of 25184. Also, how common/rare is the model 21 having 3" barrels insted of 2 3/4?
The stock on the model 21 appears to have been cut but a very professional job; the LOP is 13". How much would this de-value the gun?
Thanks,
Paul
The stock on the model 21 appears to have been cut but a very professional job; the LOP is 13". How much would this de-value the gun?
Thanks,
Paul
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I've got a chance to pick up a Winchester model 21. It is a 12 gauge with 26" barrels and has a single trigger with extractors. The bluing on the barrels is at least 98% but the bluing on the bottom of the receiver is at least half gone as well as the bottom of the trigger guard, the sides of the receiver are still very nice, it has a name professionally engraved on one side of the receiver. The stock and forearm are original to the gun and have only one or two small knicks in the finish. It is the standard field grade gun. I can get it for $2000. Think I should take it or leave it? I wouldn't use it to hunt with, I'd just put it away for a few years and hope for a return on my money. 0 -
Proofhouse.com says 1934.
I can't guess a dollar value.0 -
A model 21 is a high value collectable that really deserves to be professionally appraised to protect yourself from undervaluing it. There are too many variables that you don't describe that can swing value by hundreds of dollars IN EITHER DIRECTION. Generally 12 gauge guns similar to this, often sell between 4,000-8,000 dollars. Chokes, pads,scratches etc affect it greatly because of the high starting base value. It cant be appraised from a picture and a sentence. Nice gun. Good luck. 0 -
Im just a bit stumped with this one, its got 1960's custom checkering pattern and high grade wood on a 1933ish double trigger gun. Double triggers though rare are not desirable and do not command a premium, but it looks like a factory restock with factory custom checkering from the 60's or 70's.
I believe that someone has used a 1930's frame and barrels and it may have been factory restocked in the custom shop days...I will check the yellow sheet.
Added: The barrel stampings are correct. Old style grip is correct but checkering is not 1930's but rather the custom shop style. This grade wood would not be on this gun without a "trap" or "Tournament" stamp on trigger plate. I am pretty sure this gun was facory upgraded later than 1965ish.
Pauline....What say you?0 -
The photos taken from the right side would lead me to believe it has been re-blued as well. The purple-ish cast to the receiver is another give-away. 0 -
on the barrel it has thes markings full (vp) on one side the othere side is mod (vp) and it has a g on it all the serial # match on the wood to her is some more pics 
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whats the value thanks 0 -
quote:Originally posted by alexstang28
whats the value thanks
$4200-$4800. I have cody faxing me the original letter, but I am now 99% sure its completely redone. Fortunatly, that does not hurt these 21's all that much. Even the blue book states that some Professional redo's will not effect the value. I have seen good redo go for what an original would! These guns were carried more than they were shot usually.
If you would put a win. pad on it you might get 5k+ in a good market. The negs this gun has going for it is
1. Its a 12ga
2. Its a double trigger
3. Its got an offbrand pad
Plus's
1. Its a damn nice redo (maybe factory)
2. Its a 21
3. The wood is knock out
Per Cody Museum: There is no surviving record on Win. 21, SN 2057. . Butt: Per Pauline Muerelle, gun is a reblue and a 60's restock. Never know who did it. Good luck.0 -
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Ther reciever has defintly been refinish. Notice the water table is now blue. It was not blued from the factory. The shape of the grip looks wrong. I believe the barrels are corect. Again notice the absents of bluing on the water table. Celse 0
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