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Need help with Colt SAA 44-40 and Remington

CS8161
A local gentleman asked me to find out what these two revolvers are worth as he would like me to list them on the auction side. I have listed both of them with very little description and a very high starting bid, until I find out what they are really worth. At that point I will add info to the auction and adjust the starting bid accordingly. Thanks for any info anyone can provide on these two old revolvers! I do know the cylinder in the Remington is not original to the gun. Here are the links:
Remington black powder:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=185143264
Colt:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=185141729
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  • GuvamintCheese
    I will leave to the experts, but if he wants top dollar right now you should convince him to let the colt go in a penny auction.
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  • Old-Colts
    Regarding the Colt Single Action, it is a tough one to assign a fair value to! The configuration is very desirable; 44-40, 4 3/4 inch barrel, small front sight, CFSS roll stamped, and early 1907 production. However, there are several things that will severely diminish its value! Someone must have dropped the gun on its triggerguard or hammered with it because the bottom of the triggerguard on that vintage of Single Action should have a rounded appearance and it has a flattened appearance. The circled Rampant Colt trademark that should be just to the right of the patent stamp on the left of the frame is missing, which might indicate that the frame has been aggressively buffed, but those scratch marks might indicate that it has been filed. The gun's appearance looks like it has had cold blue applied to areas, maybe even a refinish, although except for the missing Rampant Colt I don't see signs of aggressive buffing. The grips do not appear to be of the same vintage as the gun; the knurling of the brass inserts appears to be of a later vintage and the grips do not appear to fit well.

    The missing Rampant Colt from the frame and flattened bottom of the triggerguard will be killers in my opinion. Those are just my observations and I doubt that the gun would sell for more than $1200-$1500 in a penny start, no reserve auction, but you never know because it is a 44-40.
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  • Spider7115
    In addition to the replaced cylinder, the Remington also has a replacement front sight. I would probably value it around $750-$800.
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  • Wolf.
    I'm not a Colt expert, however from what I see of this Colt, it appears to have been "cleaned up" with a buffer (same goes for the Remington, by the way) or otherwise agressively worked over. It also seems to be pretty worn. I can't speak to whether all the parts are original to the gun, however I've seen local cowboy shooters in my club shooting original pre-1900 Colts in much better original shape than this one and I know their acquisition price. Based on what I see and my limited knowledge, I will suggest to you that unless that gun has some bona fides linking it with some famous wild west character, it is worth no more than $1400.00 - $1600.00, maybe less.

    However, there are "Colt people" on this site that will pick up on this and offer their advice, which will be based on knowledge of Colt's revolvers that is greater than my own.
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  • CS8161
    Can anyone shed any light on the Remington black powder revolver? What model? What time period is it from?
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  • Spider7115
    quote:Originally posted by CS8161
    Can anyone shed any light on the Remington black powder revolver? What model? What time period is it from?


    "New Model" Remington .44 caliber revolver, made from 1863-1875 and used extensively in the Civil War. A favorite handgun of "Buffalo Bill" Cody. See my other comments above.
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