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New Haven 1828 musket

eogolpost
Anyone familiar with this musket. It has been in my family for years. Marked VS P. & E. W. Blake in front of hammer. percussion (cap-lock) Curious on value
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  • rufe-snow
    We need quality photos of the musket for correct identification and valuation.

    The markings on the lockplate identify it as a Model 1822 Flintlock Contract Musket, made in Eli Whitney's armory in Conn.
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  • eogolpost
    i was sure you would need photos. it has been stored for me for the last 20 years.i will be picking it up in maaine the end of august. i know its in excellent shape as back in the mid 70's there were many dealers interested. do you have even a range according to condition. i dont know how to insure it for shipping
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  • eogolpost
    it has new haven 1828 on the right side. it is 58" overall length
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  • eogolpost
    im quite sure my leather flask was with this musket
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  • rufe-snow
    Many of the Flintlock Muskets of that era were reworked for percussion ignition during our Civil War of the 1860's. After the war they were obsolete and sold on the surplus market by the hundreds of thousands. The dealers who bought many of them reworked and sporterized them to sell as inexpensive utility shotguns. Without quality photos it's very difficult to place a value on them. The markings on the lockplate don't mean anything. A surplus dealer could have assembled it from used spare parts 30 years after the Civil War.
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  • eogolpost
    so just photos would be enough. any marking would mean nothing. so basically your saying the condition is the only factor in the value. does the length have any significance? thank you
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  • Spider7115
    quote:Originally posted by eogolpost
    so just photos would be enough. any marking would mean nothing. so basically your saying the condition is the only factor in the value. does the length have any significance? thank you


    Length most definitely has significance. It should have a 42" barrel with a bayonet stud located 1 ?" from the muzzle. It should also have three barrel bands with sling swivels on the middle band and the trigger guard.

    The barrel should be stamped with "US", a "P" in a circle and two initials of the arsenal inspector. If you tell us the initials, we can tell you the name of the inspector as there were several. It should also have the same date on the tang as on the lock.
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  • rsnyder55
    Photos should include the all markings, proof stamps, etc.
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  • eogolpost
    the info i have is VS which is probably the US...as you state. And there is a P after. Then the initials are E. W. and Blake. will confirm the other details you have mentioned. i only know its 58" overall. thanks for you help. ill see what else i can find out.its mine but i have not seen it in 20 years. it has been in safe keeping.
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  • Spider7115
    quote:Originally posted by eogolpost
    the info i have is VS which is probably the US...as you state. And there is a P after. Then the initials are E. W. and Blake. will confirm the other details you have mentioned. i only know its 58" overall. thanks for you help. ill see what else i can find out.its mine but i have not seen it in 20 years. it has been in safe keeping.


    I meant two inspector's initials on the barrel near the circled "P" and the "US". The "E.W. Blake" on the lock is Eli Whitney Blake, who was Eli Whitney's grandson.

    NOTE: This thread my get locked due to the "ten replies rule". If that happens, just start a new thread and refer to this one.
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  • Spider7115
    Reopened in new thread: http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=469273
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