1911A1, Parts Gun or Original
Thanks to BigLoops and the others who have gottem me though this.
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Shooter/parts gun, or legitimate collector??
Karl, Will check out all the items you mentionned and follow with more pictures. May be a day or two.
Greatly appreciated.
Rob
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Shooter/parts gun, or legitimate collector??
Karl, Will check out all the items you mentionned and follow with more pictures. May be a day or two.
Greatly appreciated.
Rob
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Also, before you post something that may or may not work, click on the PREVIEW button. If your photos don't appear when you PREVIEW, they won't appear when you POST.
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quote:Originally posted by RCrosby
Asked about this pistol a while back, but had no pictures at the time. (Still might not, unless this works. Fingers are crossed.)
Last time out, on minimal information, opinions varied as to whether this was a parts gun or might be original.
Hope these pictures help. Assuming they come through, others can be provided as needed.
Thanks,
Your picture links are incomplete. This is what you posted (minus the extra spaces):
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These "links" are just fragments, and they don't contain enough information for a browser to actually retrieve images and post them.
Inside your "img" tags you need to post a COMPLETE link to an image, not just the last part.
In other words, as an example, the image links you post should look something like this (again, without extra spaces):
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...let's try this: 
RCrosby,
Here are the direct links to your photos:
http://a.imageshack.us/img825/8756/dsc02041h.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img716/5043/dsc02040a.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img716/2151/dsc02039ck.jpg
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You were using incomplete URLs for original posting. Then (I blame imageshack & other photo sites for the confusion), you posted "thumbnail" images inside of the "img" format. Here are the thumbnail links:
http://a.imageshack.us/img825/8756/dsc02041h.th.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img716/5043/dsc02040a.th.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img716/2151/dsc02039ck.th.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img831/4836/dsc02038r.th.jpg
Notice that the links to your larger photos are nearly identicle to the thumbnail links. The difference is the ".th" between the body of the URL & the ".jpg" extension. Eliminate the ".th", and you have the link to your pictures.[;)]0 -
1941 frame by Colt if you lock the slide back and take a ball point pin and push firing pin in then the firing pin retainer will drop down this will allow you to view the back of the slide. around the firing pin hole you should see numbers some above the firing pin hole and some below should be same serial . The Magazine is Pre WW II However I believe.it also may be correct for early 1941 pistol the Finish was during the transitional period from Black to parkerizing. so it could also be correct with slde off and barrel removed the lower left area of the chamber should have the words COLT 45 AUTO. Plastic grips MAY also be corret during this serial no period.The letters in a box R.S. are inspector Colonel Robert Sears he inspected guns from May 1 1937 until June 1941 but his stamp was used until on non gun items until nov. 1941. He inspected 723000-750500 . If barrel is correct and slide serial number matches then I would say Legitimate collector MOST LIKELY BUT not for sure until better pictures of all sides of hammer, mainspring housing, Grip safety ,safety ,slide stop pin . ETC. 0 -
Boy, so close on the serial number![:(]
Frame is 740,299, numbers above and below firing pin; 740,323.
Barrel does have the lettering as suggested.
I'll strip it soon and take pictures of all the markings I can find.
Karl,
Have the piece pretty much broken down to component parts. No sign of any "smithing"; amateur or otherwise. Also minimal wear and bore is clean. Unable to find any markings on the hammer or arched mainspring housing. Where the trigger guard meets the frame at the forward edge there is a "60" on the right, and on the left side a letter "P" over an inverted triangle that appears to have another "P" inside?
Also on the frame, a larger "P" off the right lower edge of the mag. release.
On the underside of the slide, below the rear end of the extractor, are markings that look like "ZU".
Back to the frame, the "RS" initials appear again just to the right of where the disconnect pokes up through the frame and a "C" or "G" stamped in the same area and partially over the RS.
The grips appear to be of a hard "bakelite" type material, "scooped" out on the inner sides and with a "7" on the right panel, and a "1" on the left.
If it helps any, my uncle was a USAF Colonel during WW-II and I may be able to find documentation of when it was issued to him?
Thanks again for your interest and help. If more pictures would help, what specifically should I go for??0 -
WoW what can I say but
This may have been the way this pistol was shipped But I suspect what happened was 50 or so pistols were issued to the same unit and when they were cleaned parts got interchanged by mistake. I don't think it is a PARTS GUN but a CORRECT gun with Non Matching serial number slide. Most likely the way it has been since Sometime between 1942 and 1945. It does have collector value just not as much as if it were Matching Numbers. . Sort of the same thing That happened with the Last Colt Saa I got a letter on. It Shows shipped as one of 5 to same place in 1906 But then shipped Back in 1906 for other Work. Now it has a different Caliber barrel original was 4&1/2 32/20 now same vintage 4&1/2 inch 44/40 and now with Vintage Carved Mother of Pearl Grips but factory letter list Stocks as NOT LISTED[:(]0 -
Hello The RS on the frame disconnector hole is correct as this was an inspector mark before the gun was completed and then the RS on the side of frame after pistol completed . The grips are second type of COLTWOOD with mold marks. The molds were numbered in case some molds produced grips that was out of Spec they could just replace that one mold instead of all of them. The G stands for GOVERNMENTAL contract THE VP inside a V stands for Verified Proof after the gun was fired The other numbers and letters in various places represent The people that assembled different stages of the pistol on the Line. The safety looks like it may be Remington Rand but may very well be Colt. I would have to see a better view of the checkering also the slide stop pin I also need to see side and top view of the Hammer spur also number of grooves in Mainspring housing and the Top view of JUST the rear sight NOTCH NOT the whole sight This picture should be from no more then 3 inches away from the notch. Hope this helps. Karl. 0
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